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The biggest problem that I have with people that I consider too big of fans of TT is the notion that there is no space between doing nothing and doing something crazy. There are dozens of options that fall into the smart and rational category.

My biggest issue is that when people want something done ---a majority of the time they do not say how or why..

Some posters (not you, or anyone here, just in general on all forums) they say go grab so and so, but do not think of salary, what the cap is at, can he fit our style of what we need...Etc...etc...

I can tell you that when Cobb and Jones went down, there were talks internally that they were looking at players and trades..Just cuz it isnt in the news, doesnt mean TT is sitting on hands..

I am sure a few here can confirm they heard same
 

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There was no room for him! Shoot we had Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Boykin all clear cut above him and then we were hoping the raw speedy skills of Ross would catch wind but it didn't. When there is no room there is no room...we can argue over whether or not he deserved a spot for special teams contribution in the meantime but we got ST specialists like Bush and Kuhn for a big part we didn't need another....just sucks the injuries hit us hard and makes hindsight bite.


Yea but he always feels the need to keep 30 tightends smh.
 

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I'm a fan. My job is to have my feet on the table, on Sunday morning, wearing my Packers Zubaz (commando if you care to know), have a fresh keg of PBR, and watch the game. I don't pretend to know who is out there and how good they are, nor do I have a crytal ball that enables me to know who will be good on our team two years from now. That's TTs job. I never said that we should sign 5 WRs, so I don't know where that comes from, but when there are 5 receivers that were contributing starters, on the team last year, yes 7 games ago, that are no longer able to play, I don't think that its unreasonable, as a fan, to expect that a GM sign a replacement for AT LEAST ONE of them. Not some hack street FA, but someone who has some stature. Some of the suggestions in other threads bear interest. Olson, Nicks and others may or may not be the answer, but to do nothing, while on a playoff run, really is sleeping at the wheel. So to answer your demand for answers, I've never suggested that we sign 5 WRS nor did I ever say that we should go get player X.
The season is underway. It is reasonable to think that most of the good players are already on teams. Signing a player because you need a player is not the way to go. You are picking up a sub NFL quality player and cutting a decent NFL player at a position of more strength. You do this and the quality of your team decreases. We are talking WRs here - which coming into this season many Packer fans would have argued they were at the top of the NFL talent wise.
 
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The season is underway. It is reasonable to think that most of the good players are already on teams. Signing a player because you need a player is not the way to go. You are picking up a sub NFL quality player and cutting a decent NFL player at a position of more strength. You do this and the quality of your team decreases. We are talking WRs here - which coming into this season many Packer fans would have argued they were at the top of the NFL talent wise.
I would have argued it too, but then we lost 3 of our top 4. Its not like losing 3 of your top 4 receivers is just a comment on the weather. Pick a position, any position, put that position back in the deck. OK, if we lost 3 of our top 4 LBs would we want to find someone to help there. How about DBs, OL, RBs, DL. Again, we didn't lose our back up longsnapper, we lost 3 of our 4 top receivers. I know that its hard to call out TT for anything, but really. We are a passing team with 3 of our 4 top receivers out, for how long, no one really knows. If you really want to know who you can cut, there have been multiple threads about Kuhn. I'd off him during a TV timeout to get a viable WR on our team. It might even SAVE money.
 

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If you really want to know who you can cut, there have been multiple threads about Kuhn. I'd off him during a TV timeout to get a viable WR on our team. It might even SAVE money.


Then who takes his place on special teams
 

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Honestly I never looked at the WR position as a problem area going into the season. Certainly it would have been nice to keep Jennings..in retrospect I'm glad he isn't around. Point is I didn't see WR as a problem area. I thought the OL was thin as was the safety position. Injuries are a ***** and I 'm sick of the # of injuries we suffer but I don't see how any GM could have forecast what has happened to us. We've lost Bulaga, Cobb for an extended time, Finley probably until next year, hamstring problems out the *** (no pun intended), broken thumb with Clay, broken bone in the foot with Perry, and more I've probably forgot. Despite all that we're 4-2. Take a deep breath folks.
 

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I read on some website that we are expected to place Jermichael Finely on IR for the remainder of the season. :( apparently Ed Werdener is the source.
 

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I don't pretend to know who is out there and how good they are ...
Of course you don’t. You don’t pretend to know anything of substance like talent available, cap consequences of an acquisition, the effect it would have on other positions, or STs, or the player’s effect on the locker room. You just think Thompson is responsible for your hero’s departure from Green Bay and you take any and every opportunity to criticize him for it.
We are fortunate that this is a thread bemoaning the loss of 5 starting receivers from last season's roster.
You’ll probably say you don’t pretend to know the facts but some of the rest of us don’t take pride in ignorance so here are a couple to consider: In the 2012 regular season Donald Driver had a total of 8 receptions for 77 yards and 2 TDs, having started one game. So much for losing a “starting” WR. By way of comparison, Jerrett Boykin had 8 catches for 103 yards and 1 TD against the Browns. Greg Jennings was certainly a starting WR in Green Bay but because of injury during the 2012 season he only started 5 games. If you combine Driver’s and Jennings’ receptions, yards, and TDs , Jordy Nelson had more of each than that combination. James Jones had more of each than Nelson, and Randall Cobb had more of each than Jones, except for TDs. BTW, what a goofy statement (we are fortunate?).
Pick a position, any position, put that position back in the deck. OK, if we lost 3 of our top 4 LBs would we want to find someone to help there.
No. In fact, the Packers did lose three of their top 4 LBs against the Browns: Clay Matthews, Brad Jones, and Nick Perry were all out. Not only that, but the main backup ILB, Robert Francois, is on IR and Mike Neal saw limited duty. And they did just fine, didn’t they?

And just like James Jones and Cobb, Matthews, Brad Jones, and Perry will likely be back. Perhaps Finley too.
… I think TT is a hack and I don't like him.
I think it’s obvious who the hack is. Beyond that I can’t help but indulge in some schadenfreude knowing it had to burn you up to watch the VP/GM who you believe pushed your hero out of Green Bay lead the team to a title. Thompson was right and you were wrong!
 
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Of course you don’t. You don’t pretend to know anything of substance like talent available, cap consequences of an acquisition, the effect it would have on other positions, or STs, or the player’s effect on the locker room. You just think Thompson is responsible for your hero’s departure from Green Bay and you take any and every opportunity to criticize him for it. You’ll probably say you don’t pretend to know the facts but some of the rest of us don’t take pride in ignorance so here are a couple to consider: In the 2012 regular season Donald Driver had a total of 8 receptions for 77 yards and 2 TDs, having started one game. So much for losing a “starting” WR. By way of comparison, Jerrett Boykin had 8 catches for 103 yards and 1 TD against the Browns. Greg Jennings was certainly a starting WR in Green Bay but because of injury during the 2012 season he only started 5 games. If you combine Driver’s and Jennings’ receptions, yards, and TDs , Jordy Nelson had more of each than that combination. James Jones had more of each than Nelson, and Randall Cobb had more of each than Jones, except for TDs. BTW, what a goofy statement (we are fortunate?). No. In fact, the Packers did lose three of their top 4 LBs against the Browns: Clay Matthews, Brad Jones, and Nick Perry were all out. Not only that, but the main backup ILB, Robert Francois, is on IR and Mike Neal saw limited duty. And they did just fine, didn’t they?

And just like James Jones and Cobb, Matthews, Brad Jones, and Perry will likely be back. Perhaps Finley too. I think it’s obvious who the hack is. Beyond that I can’t help but indulge in some schadenfreude knowing it had to burn you up to watch the VP/GM who you believe pushed your hero out of Green Bay lead the team to a title. Thompson was right and you were wrong!

game, set and match..........new balls please.
 

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OK you convinced me....losing temporarily 3 pass catchers we need to go out and use draft picks to trade for someone...preferrably a instant #2 caliber receiver so shell out a high draft pick as it's worth it for 1 year more than likely and then cut whomever on the roster to make room for them, it doesn't matter....shoot just get rid of a TE or LB or OL....then in 3 more weeks when we lose 2 guys in that position just do it all over again....by the end of the season let's be devoid of depth and future draft picks but gosh darn it we must do something.....


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Of course you don’t. You don’t pretend to know anything of substance like talent available, cap consequences of an acquisition, the effect it would have on other positions, or STs, or the player’s effect on the locker room. You just think Thompson is responsible for your hero’s departure from Green Bay and you take any and every opportunity to criticize him for it. You’ll probably say you don’t pretend to know the facts but some of the rest of us don’t take pride in ignorance so here are a couple to consider: In the 2012 regular season Donald Driver had a total of 8 receptions for 77 yards and 2 TDs, having started one game. So much for losing a “starting” WR. By way of comparison, Jerrett Boykin had 8 catches for 103 yards and 1 TD against the Browns. Greg Jennings was certainly a starting WR in Green Bay but because of injury during the 2012 season he only started 5 games. If you combine Driver’s and Jennings’ receptions, yards, and TDs , Jordy Nelson had more of each than that combination. James Jones had more of each than Nelson, and Randall Cobb had more of each than Jones, except for TDs. BTW, what a goofy statement (we are fortunate?). No. In fact, the Packers did lose three of their top 4 LBs against the Browns: Clay Matthews, Brad Jones, and Nick Perry were all out. Not only that, but the main backup ILB, Robert Francois, is on IR and Mike Neal saw limited duty. And they did just fine, didn’t they?

And just like James Jones and Cobb, Matthews, Brad Jones, and Perry will likely be back. Perhaps Finley too. I think it’s obvious who the hack is. Beyond that I can’t help but indulge in some schadenfreude knowing it had to burn you up to watch the VP/GM who you believe pushed your hero out of Green Bay lead the team to a title. Thompson was right and you were wrong!
I didn't know that the three LB were all out for extended periods, maybe the entire season. So your parallel falls flat as usual. I'd have read more of your longwinded garbage, but its always the same.
 

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Bus, there's no education in getting kicked in the privates by a mule multiple times.
 
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No. In fact, the Packers did lose three of their top 4 LBs against the Browns: Clay Matthews, Brad Jones, and Nick Perry were all out. Not only that, but the main backup ILB, Robert Francois, is on IR and Mike Neal saw limited duty. And they did just fine, didn’t they?
When you consider all the injuries, and yet our 3rd, 4th, or 5th string guys are stepping up and playing well - TT has done an amazing job of assembling talent on this roster. I think you have to now give TT the nod in the NFL as the best GM in the business.

Maybe that is why we are 'over' cautious with these injuries. We have young guys who can step in and handle it. Imagine all the starters we are going to have come back just in time for a playoff push. I'm sure Clay's hammy is mending while waiting on the thumb. And over a 1/3 of the season in - we are in 1st place - even with all the backups playing.
 

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Pick a position, any position, put that position back in the deck. OK, if we lost 3 of our top 4 LBs would we want to find someone to help there.


I didn't know that the three LB were all out for extended periods, maybe the entire season. So your parallel falls flat as usual. I'd have read more of your longwinded garbage, but its always the same.

Okay, reading comprehension step through:

Bus: Makes supposition involving loss of 3 top LBs
JV: Points out we did in fact lose 3 top LBs
Bus: Admits not knowing that - comes to the conclusion that therefore 'your parallel falls flat'

AM interpretation: If you remain ignorant of facts, arguments against your position are then wrong.

I didn't know that the three LB were all out for extended periods, maybe the entire season. So your parallel falls flat as usual. I'd have read more of your longwinded garbage, but its always the same.

Of course you won't read. If you read your devotion to hating TT would be so easily challenged. Best to just hold on to those deep beliefs.
 
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Okay, reading comprehension step through:

Bus: Makes supposition involving loss of 3 top LBs
JV: Points out we did in fact lose 3 top LBs
Bus: Admits not knowing that - comes to the conclusion that therefore 'your parallel falls flat'

AM interpretation: If you remain ignorant of facts, arguments against your position are then wrong.



Of course you won't read. If you read your devotion to hating TT would be so easily challenged. Best to just hold on to those deep beliefs.
Having three linebackers pulled out of ONE game is not the same as Finley out for the season or more, and Cobb/Jones didn't miss part of a game they both will miss many games, huge difference. I hope that you are just trolling. I'll wait for you to post about Lacy being "out" when Franklin/Kuhn rotates in for him.
 
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