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<blockquote data-quote="Sunshinepacker" data-source="post: 959985" data-attributes="member: 9033"><p>Not sure why anyone would care about the 90's? Game has changed quite a bit since then. Of teams that won with elite defenses and below-average offenses (in the last 20 years), you have the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs; again, does anyone think the current Packers defense is going to be one of the best in NFL history? This link is 4 years old so I'll just add the last 4 rows here with their respective DVOA ranks:</p><p>2018 Pats - 5 and 19</p><p>2019 Chiefs - 3 and 14</p><p>2020 Bucs - 3 and 5</p><p>2021 Rams - 8 and 5</p><p></p><p>2003 Patriots were exactly average on offense so, for those advocating winning with a brutal running game and relying on the defense, you're going with the model that 2 teams have won with in the last 2 decades, the 2008 Steelers and 2015 Broncos. The stats prove my point, far more teams win with a good offense (14 of the past 20 Super Bowl winners had top-10 offenses) as opposed to 3 teams that were below-average on offense (the other 3 teams were 11th, 15th, and 16th on offense). I would add that 13 of the past 20 Super Bowl champions also had top-10 defenses, so I'm not saying that defense isn't important. Just that the offense needs to be a concern as well when assessing whether a team is a legit Super Bowl contender. I fully expect the Packers to take a step back on offense (they were 2nd in offensive DVOA last season) and, if they emphasize the run like the Titans or the 49ers then I wouldn't expect the offense to be good enough to carry them to a Super Bowl.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunshinepacker, post: 959985, member: 9033"] Not sure why anyone would care about the 90's? Game has changed quite a bit since then. Of teams that won with elite defenses and below-average offenses (in the last 20 years), you have the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs; again, does anyone think the current Packers defense is going to be one of the best in NFL history? This link is 4 years old so I'll just add the last 4 rows here with their respective DVOA ranks: 2018 Pats - 5 and 19 2019 Chiefs - 3 and 14 2020 Bucs - 3 and 5 2021 Rams - 8 and 5 2003 Patriots were exactly average on offense so, for those advocating winning with a brutal running game and relying on the defense, you're going with the model that 2 teams have won with in the last 2 decades, the 2008 Steelers and 2015 Broncos. The stats prove my point, far more teams win with a good offense (14 of the past 20 Super Bowl winners had top-10 offenses) as opposed to 3 teams that were below-average on offense (the other 3 teams were 11th, 15th, and 16th on offense). I would add that 13 of the past 20 Super Bowl champions also had top-10 defenses, so I'm not saying that defense isn't important. Just that the offense needs to be a concern as well when assessing whether a team is a legit Super Bowl contender. I fully expect the Packers to take a step back on offense (they were 2nd in offensive DVOA last season) and, if they emphasize the run like the Titans or the 49ers then I wouldn't expect the offense to be good enough to carry them to a Super Bowl. [/QUOTE]
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