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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arles" data-source="post: 149175" data-attributes="member: 786">I'm just curious as to what a player needs to do on defense to be "impact". It is just solely subjective? If that's the case, this argument is meaningless. I would say Hawk flashed signs of being a an impact player. But, as a rookie, was not as consistent as he should have been (not unlike Urlacher in his rookie season).Hawk in 8 wins:66 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 picks, 5 passes defensed and 1 forced fumble. Hawk in 8 losses:55 tackles, 0.5 sacks, 0 picks, 2 passes defensed and 0 forced fumbles.If he can have 12-13 games like those 8 wins this season, he could grow into a serious impact player on D. I would expect in his second season to get that kind of improvement. Also, it helps to add a talented player to the DL to help his growth as well.</blockquote>

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