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<blockquote data-quote="Cory" data-source="post: 149097" data-attributes="member: 634"><p>I feel an argument can be made for both, but am not going to judge this by hindsight. Harrell is a risk, just as hoping for two top 15 is a risk. By saying they "should" be top 15 you are saying the Packers are either A.) going to fail this season or B.)should give up the season in hopes for two top 15 picks next year. Then you are also leaving your fate in the hands of what the Browns do next year. Sorry, but that scenerio will provide itself more often than you can imagine and you don't just jump on it at every whim. Harrell is a DT that has a ton of potential and is ok'ed by the doctors. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it won't be a mistake to me because it's all a crapshoot and a big risk. Your statement about Corey Williams vs Harrell shows me how little you know about the game of football. Gilbert Brown never had big numbers, but how valuable to the team do you feel he was at stopping the run and freeing up other players? Ever since the days of Jackson and now Pickett we have had a revolving door at the other DT position and Harrell offers a chance at not only stability, but to have another major run stuffer that gets a push up the field on passing downs which leads to more production from the linebackers as well as more sacks off the edge. You don't judge a DT in numbers. That's like saying a corner that doesn't have many ints is a bad corner.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you serious? Tell me how does Jacksonville have a better chance at a playoff run than we do? They are unsettled at QB...have problems on the Oline AND at LB along with depth in the defensive backfield. They are also in the much tougher AFC. The Giants? Who is going to protect Manning? Is Manning going to be more consistant? Who is going to replace Barber? Who is going to help their aging reciever corps? They also have a lame duck coach. Their only hope is that they are in the NFC. The Titans? You mean that team that didn't help Young AT ALL in the draft? They also lost Travis Henry(their best RB), Drew Bennet and Bobby Wade their leading recievers? They are also in a division with the so called playoff contenders(the jags) and the SB champs Colts. Cincinatti is plausible, but they aren't withotu their questions, too. No Henry. Multiple arrests that have taken an effect on that team. Denver is in a "win now" mode? That's why they benched Plummer and went with a rookie the finale part of last year while in the middle of a playoff run? Bottom line is that these teams were 8-8 to 9-7 last year. Not a whole lot better than we were so it's amazing to me you can see a bunch of positives for these teams and not the Packers.</p><p></p><p>For arguments sake let me just ask you what is sooooo impressive about aaron ross, michael griffin, and jarvis moss that makes THEM better than that trade since you seem to want to make arguments for these teams NOT taking that trade? I liked the Reggie Nelson and Leon Hall picks(although Hall is vastly overrated).</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Why does someone have to be upset that he traded down? Word is he wanted Jarrett or Rice and both got taken just before we picked so he traded down and got Jackson. Go on record for what? That's a bunch of emotional jargain that makes very little sense. Say Cleveland starts 4-0 and then Quinn or Thomas get injured so they go 5-11 or 6-10....then are you going to be on here "see!! see!! I told you so!!" All emotional jargain. I couldn't care less what could "possibly" happen with those picks. I'm hoping for a good season from the pack and am happy with Harrell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds to me like it's really going to sting for you if th Packers end up doing well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cory, post: 149097, member: 634"] I feel an argument can be made for both, but am not going to judge this by hindsight. Harrell is a risk, just as hoping for two top 15 is a risk. By saying they "should" be top 15 you are saying the Packers are either A.) going to fail this season or B.)should give up the season in hopes for two top 15 picks next year. Then you are also leaving your fate in the hands of what the Browns do next year. Sorry, but that scenerio will provide itself more often than you can imagine and you don't just jump on it at every whim. Harrell is a DT that has a ton of potential and is ok'ed by the doctors. No it won't be a mistake to me because it's all a crapshoot and a big risk. Your statement about Corey Williams vs Harrell shows me how little you know about the game of football. Gilbert Brown never had big numbers, but how valuable to the team do you feel he was at stopping the run and freeing up other players? Ever since the days of Jackson and now Pickett we have had a revolving door at the other DT position and Harrell offers a chance at not only stability, but to have another major run stuffer that gets a push up the field on passing downs which leads to more production from the linebackers as well as more sacks off the edge. You don't judge a DT in numbers. That's like saying a corner that doesn't have many ints is a bad corner. Are you serious? Tell me how does Jacksonville have a better chance at a playoff run than we do? They are unsettled at QB...have problems on the Oline AND at LB along with depth in the defensive backfield. They are also in the much tougher AFC. The Giants? Who is going to protect Manning? Is Manning going to be more consistant? Who is going to replace Barber? Who is going to help their aging reciever corps? They also have a lame duck coach. Their only hope is that they are in the NFC. The Titans? You mean that team that didn't help Young AT ALL in the draft? They also lost Travis Henry(their best RB), Drew Bennet and Bobby Wade their leading recievers? They are also in a division with the so called playoff contenders(the jags) and the SB champs Colts. Cincinatti is plausible, but they aren't withotu their questions, too. No Henry. Multiple arrests that have taken an effect on that team. Denver is in a "win now" mode? That's why they benched Plummer and went with a rookie the finale part of last year while in the middle of a playoff run? Bottom line is that these teams were 8-8 to 9-7 last year. Not a whole lot better than we were so it's amazing to me you can see a bunch of positives for these teams and not the Packers. For arguments sake let me just ask you what is sooooo impressive about aaron ross, michael griffin, and jarvis moss that makes THEM better than that trade since you seem to want to make arguments for these teams NOT taking that trade? I liked the Reggie Nelson and Leon Hall picks(although Hall is vastly overrated). Why does someone have to be upset that he traded down? Word is he wanted Jarrett or Rice and both got taken just before we picked so he traded down and got Jackson. Go on record for what? That's a bunch of emotional jargain that makes very little sense. Say Cleveland starts 4-0 and then Quinn or Thomas get injured so they go 5-11 or 6-10....then are you going to be on here "see!! see!! I told you so!!" All emotional jargain. I couldn't care less what could "possibly" happen with those picks. I'm hoping for a good season from the pack and am happy with Harrell. Sounds to me like it's really going to sting for you if th Packers end up doing well. [/QUOTE]
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