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<blockquote data-quote="Oannes" data-source="post: 149014" data-attributes="member: 816">It is fun to read and speculate on our new crop of Packers and what the future&nbsp; holds for them.&nbsp; What isn&#039;t speculation, though, troubles me a great deal.What philosophy would you say Ted Thompson subscribes to?.... &quot;Win now&quot; or.... &quot;build for the future&quot;?&nbsp; I think the majority of Packer fans would say he&#039;s definitely building for the future.&nbsp; Many hearty Favre fans are disgusted with TT&#039;s inablity to go for the throat on one of, if not, Brett&#039;s last season.&nbsp; If we can all agree that Ted Thompson is building for the future then I have a question that needs careful thought.&nbsp;&nbsp; Why didn&#039;t Ted Thompson make that deal with the Cleveland Browns?&nbsp;&nbsp; TT could&#039;ve picked up a nearly certain extra Top 10, if not Top 5, pick in the &#039;08 draft.&nbsp;&nbsp; We&#039;re probably going to be picking in the Top 15, so we&#039;d be looking at likely 2 picks in the Top 15.&nbsp;&nbsp; That&#039;s almost unheard of in the draft.Imagine if Ted had made that deal...&nbsp;&nbsp; We&#039;d be set up unbelievably well for 2008, which is exactly what someone who is building for the future would be doing.&nbsp;&nbsp; Here&#039;s what likely would&#039;ve happened in this draft had Ted made that deal.&nbsp;&nbsp; Picking 3rd in Round 2, Ted would&#039;ve had his pick of Dwayne Jarrett and Sidney Rice and any RB not named Lynch or Peterson.&nbsp;&nbsp; I suspect he would&#039;ve added Jarrett as the speculation is we traded down because both Rice and Jarrett were off the board.&nbsp;&nbsp; So, we have Jarrett in Round 2.&nbsp;&nbsp; We likely could&#039;ve traded down in Round 3 for an extra pick like he did in Round 2 and still gotten Brandon Jackson.&nbsp; &nbsp; The way Day 1 shaped up was....&nbsp; 1) Justin Harrell&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2) Brandon Jackson&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3) James Jones&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4) Aaron RouseThe way it likely would&#039;ve shaped up with the Cleveland deal...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2) Dwayne Jarrett&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3)&nbsp; Brandon Jackson&nbsp; and a likely extra&nbsp; &nbsp; pick for the 4th round with a trade down where we could&#039;ve still landed Rouse.&nbsp; Shoot, we could&#039;ve taken Eric Weddle if we wanted.What would you rather have had?&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#039;d rather have Jarrett and Jackson and an extra 1st rounder in &#039;08...IF... I&#039;m building for the future.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is what&nbsp; confuses me.... TT is building for the future and not trying to win now.&nbsp; We did nothing in FA.&nbsp;&nbsp; I know, I know... we tried and lost.&nbsp;&nbsp; Well, we had the money but didn&#039;t spend it.&nbsp; We don&#039;t add Randy Moss, which is a &quot;win now&quot; move&nbsp; keep both picks in Round 3 and add James &quot;Round 3 Tragedy&quot; Jones and Aaron Rouse who reportedly can&#039;t cover a jar. Can someone explain our overall philosophy?&nbsp;&nbsp; Is it &quot;win now&quot; or &quot;build for the future&quot;?&nbsp;&nbsp; The moves of&nbsp; this off-season really make me wonder what we&#039;re trying to accomplish.... I&#039;m sure that I&#039;m not alone.&nbsp;&nbsp; Again,&nbsp; there&#039;s no way a person building for the future doesn&#039;t make that deal, like there&#039;s no way someone who is trying to win now doesn&#039;t trade a 3rd for Randy Moss at a position of great need.&nbsp;&nbsp; It appears to me that things definitely didn&#039;t go as TT planned and he scrambled and left us with what we&#039;re now all debating.&nbsp; Leaders have plans and unless he&#039;s operating at a genius level that I just can&#039;t comprehend, we need a new leader with a clear direction.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oannes, post: 149014, member: 816"] It is fun to read and speculate on our new crop of Packers and what the future holds for them. What isn't speculation, though, troubles me a great deal. What philosophy would you say Ted Thompson subscribes to?.... "Win now" or.... "build for the future"? I think the majority of Packer fans would say he's definitely building for the future. Many hearty Favre fans are disgusted with TT's inablity to go for the throat on one of, if not, Brett's last season. If we can all agree that Ted Thompson is building for the future then I have a question that needs careful thought. Why didn't Ted Thompson make that deal with the Cleveland Browns? TT could've picked up a nearly certain extra Top 10, if not Top 5, pick in the '08 draft. We're probably going to be picking in the Top 15, so we'd be looking at likely 2 picks in the Top 15. That's almost unheard of in the draft. Imagine if Ted had made that deal... We'd be set up unbelievably well for 2008, which is exactly what someone who is building for the future would be doing. Here's what likely would've happened in this draft had Ted made that deal. Picking 3rd in Round 2, Ted would've had his pick of Dwayne Jarrett and Sidney Rice and any RB not named Lynch or Peterson. I suspect he would've added Jarrett as the speculation is we traded down because both Rice and Jarrett were off the board. So, we have Jarrett in Round 2. We likely could've traded down in Round 3 for an extra pick like he did in Round 2 and still gotten Brandon Jackson. The way Day 1 shaped up was.... 1) Justin Harrell 2) Brandon Jackson 3) James Jones 4) Aaron Rouse The way it likely would've shaped up with the Cleveland deal... 2) Dwayne Jarrett 3) Brandon Jackson and a likely extra pick for the 4th round with a trade down where we could've still landed Rouse. Shoot, we could've taken Eric Weddle if we wanted. What would you rather have had? I'd rather have Jarrett and Jackson and an extra 1st rounder in '08...IF... I'm building for the future. This is what confuses me.... TT is building for the future and not trying to win now. We did nothing in FA. I know, I know... we tried and lost. Well, we had the money but didn't spend it. We don't add Randy Moss, which is a "win now" move keep both picks in Round 3 and add James "Round 3 Tragedy" Jones and Aaron Rouse who reportedly can't cover a jar. Can someone explain our overall philosophy? Is it "win now" or "build for the future"? The moves of this off-season really make me wonder what we're trying to accomplish.... I'm sure that I'm not alone. Again, there's no way a person building for the future doesn't make that deal, like there's no way someone who is trying to win now doesn't trade a 3rd for Randy Moss at a position of great need. It appears to me that things definitely didn't go as TT planned and he scrambled and left us with what we're now all debating. Leaders have plans and unless he's operating at a genius level that I just can't comprehend, we need a new leader with a clear direction. [/QUOTE]

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