Pyle wrote:
Thank you for sticking the nail in your coffin. So without injuries the Packers were likely an 8-8 team in 2005. Now, in 2006 they go 8-8 again but yet they are improving? Help me out here
Thank you Pyle for biting on this and remember in the future that I put thought into what I post.
If in fact, without injuries, the '05 Packers would have had an 8-8 record, the same record as '06, than how are we improving?
That's your question correct?
Well here's your answer. The WHOLE idea of BUILDING a team thru the draft with YOUNG players is that they GET BETTER.
That's right Pyle, young players get BETTER and become GOOD and GREAT players thru something called E-X-P-E-R-I-E-N-C-E.
You solidified this with your own comments about the players MS drafted that made the Pro-Bowl. Both Walker and Kampman were in this league, getting better every year, and BECAME great players thru time.
They damn sure weren't Pro-Bowl caliber their first year now were they?
That's why were improving Pyle. We have a bunch of young guys who went out there in '06 and bashed heads with a bunch of veteran players over the year and they held their own.
We're improving because we have better FOOTBALL PLAYERS on the field than we had out there in '05 and even though guys like Wahle, Rivera, and Flanny, were good in their day we are better NOW for making the transition from that group. I believe that defines improvement doesn't it?
We were no where close to competing with the Bears for the North in '05 and it is going to be a WAR when we knock heads this year.
I call that improvement.[/quote]
Ohhh, I see. Now if it only made a lick of sense. If you are 8-8 one year and go 8-8 the next you didn't improve.
You guys have so many and's, if's, when's and but's. You see things that the record poves otherwise. You are constantly pointing to the future. You base everything on potential. Guess what, every other team in the NFL can say the same. Every other team could sy they will go 16-0 next year every year. You actually sound alot like Viking fans. I know, we will win the Super Bowl in 2010 until 2010 comes around, then it will be 2011, 2012, 2013 and on and on.
Your words and arguments are commonplace for teams that don't have a shot, for franchises headed in the wrong direction, for the Packers of the 70's and 80's.
You never hear a SB team say "wait til next year". That says alot