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Why have the Packers abandoned the run?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by rabidgopher04, Sep 23, 2007.

  1. DakotaT

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    On HBO's inside the NFL, Collinsworth said he just didn't know how the Packers were going to get Merriman blocked. I sure hope he comes back this week and commends Taush and Clifton, but I'm not holding my breath.
     
  2. tromadz

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    Chargers pass D is bad.

    the end.
     
  3. Zero2Cool

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    Expect more passing next week against the run strong, weak pass defensive team of the Vikings.
     
  4. bozz_2006

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    my dad is going to be at the game next week to see Brett Favre break the all-time TD record.
     
  5. CalifPacker

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    I agree. Pass alot and break a few long ones too.
     
  6. tromadz

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    That's awesome.
     
  7. bozz_2006

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    yes it is. My dad deserves to see that record broken. He's not even from Wisconsin and he's been a Packer fan since he was a kid. I'm really pulling for it to happen against the Vikes.
     
  8. gopackgo

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    Is that your dad on the right in your avatar?
     
  9. Zero2Cool

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    Barring an injury, he will break it.
     
  10. bozz_2006

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    yes it is!
     
  11. Zero2Cool

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    I found this interesting and I think this ends this thread.


     
  12. Greg C.

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    HILARIOUS stuff here from packersnews.com. This was published before today's game. Yep, the key is to establish the running game:

    McCarthy said there are two types of 3-4's, which is so named because it features three down linemen and four linebackers, as opposed to the traditional 4-3, with four down linemen and three linebackers. McCarthy likened the type of 3-4 the Chargers play to what the Packers saw against the Patriots and Jets last season, and neither of those games went well.

    The Packers scored just 10 points total in those two games and suffered blowout losses at home. The key is to be able to establish a running game because if the offense becomes too reliant on the pass, it's playing right into the hands of a 3-4.

    "It's really built to take away the run and try to get you in a one-dimensional game of passing," McCarthy said. "But it's just like any defense. It has its strengths, and in my opinion you need to attack it, and also you need to try to create situations, angles, however you want to view it, to give you a better opportunity running the football."
     
  13. rabidgopher04

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    In bringing up the abondoned running game, I am speaking more broadly, not just the Chargers game. All 3 games the run has been pathetic. You can't tell me that they have been game planning to pass hardcore all 3 games.

    What I fear is that this is a one-dimensional team and when the Packers play someone with a lights-out secondary they'll get their asses handed to them.

    Yes, I am happy they won and recognize that they did, but can they sustain this pass happy attack week after week? Eventually someone is going to have their number and won't have the run to bail them out based on what I've seen so far.
     
  14. bozz_2006

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    what i see is progression each week. week 2 was better than week 1, and week 3 was better than week 2. I'm happy with our progression. We NEED to keep progressing if we hope to be a real playoff team.
     
  15. Zombieslayer

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    Urgh! For the love of God, knock on wood or something!
     
  16. millertime

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    I was very worried about Merriman. We completely neutralized him. Great stuff o-line.
     
  17. Greg C.

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    Point taken. But it's a subject that can better be discussed later in the week, in the cool light of reason. Right now everyone is just happy that they won, and most people agree that the pass-happy game plan was perfect, except for that empty backfield on fourth and inches at the goal line.
     
  18. cheesey

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    I bet Merriman wasn't very "Merry" after the game!
    Hey, if a D is that good against the pass, they STILL have to beat it. How many times in the past have teams that had good pass D, STILL not stop Favre? And look what kinds of weapons he has to throw to now! Driver, Jennings, Jones, Bubba, Lee...........Favre must be drooling over his receiving corp right now. And i really think in this case, the pass will open up the run later. If a D expects passes, I bet we can gash them on some runs at that time.
     
  19. trippster

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    I did it playing sandlot ball as a kid and I did pretty well..... :p
     
  20. Obi1

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    Exactly!

    The Packers running game will get more considerable as the season progresses.

    right now, the screen pass, the quick slants and the flare passes have rplaced the run as a run-substitute.
     
  21. warhawk

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    The gameplan he came up with worked. It looked to me like when they did run the opportunity was there but why go away from what you are doing if it works?

    Now that teams see that the Packers cannot necessarily be beaten by making them one-dimensional it will require an emphasis on the opponents part to come up with a way to stop our passing game.

    That's when you will see us run it more.

    BUT. If the opposing team stubbornly stays with 7 or 8 guys up close like San Diego did we can just merrily go on our way and WHIP THEIR ***.
     
  22. de_real_deal

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    That cant be true because we "drafted Brandon Jackson specifically for his experience in the zbs at Nebraska" or so i thought
     
  23. cheesey

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    The way i see it.........in the past, some of our coaches would stick with the run, even if it wasn't working, and we would lose.
    I'm glad to see a coach that goes with whats working.
    It has lead to 3-0
     
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  25. mkapp

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    its a little concerning, but it might work out that the amount of passing we have done so far, and the record dangling in front of favre's eyes - teams will have forgotten about the run. I look for the run game to get better over the next week or 2, although Minn. has a good run D.
     

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