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Why Brett Really Came Back

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  1. TOPackerFan

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    From si.com:

    GREEN BAY, Wis.-- I came here last week still not knowing, deep down, why Brett Favre came back, at 36, for a 16th season. Because late last season he was done. Finished. He told coach Mike Holmgren as much twice, even saying in one late-season conversation: "I never should have come back this year.''

    Former Packers center Mike Flanagan, now with the Texans, figured Favre was toast after an embarrassing 48-3 Monday night loss at Baltimore in December. "Every time after a road game, on the bus, we'd always sit in back and talk about what worked and what didn't work,'' Flanagan told me. "Not that night. Brett just laid back there, saying nothing to anyone, like it was over.''

    When Favre arrived at camp this year, all of his golfing buddies were gone. All of them. Doug Pederson, Craig Nall, Ryan Longwell, the last two in free agency this offseason. So why? Why was he back here, in a back hallway behind the Packers' locker room at Lambeau Field, holding up something that looked like a cross between a Devil Dog and a Moonpie, 10 minutes before his afternoon quarterback meeting, smiling with his mouth full and saying, "Pretty good lunch, huh?''

    The easy answer seemed to be because he still wanted to play and the money was good. But there had to be something more, and I hadn't heard it yet.

    "To be honest,'' he said, "I'm shocked too. I'm shocked to be back. Because I was gone.''

    "So what happened? What really happened?'' I asked.

    "I guess, really, there're two things,'' Favre said. "Last year, as our season kept going downhill [the Pack finished 4-12], and I knew it was over for me, I said to [then-coach] Mike Sherman, 'I guess as soon as the season's over, I'll announce I'm retiring.'

    "Mike said, 'Why? What's the hurry? Go home. Think for a while. With the season you've just been through, you don't want to make a quick decision. You're healthy. You owe it to yourself to take your time and think about it. If you make a quick decision, and if you make it now, you might regret it for a long time.'

    "So even though I was sure I wasn't going to play, I thought what Mike said was smart. And I went home. I think I was home [in Mississippi] before this place even got cleaned out from our last game of the year. I had to get away. And as time passed, I knew I could still play. I felt healthy. I felt like I'd be a good fit in [new coach] Mike McCarthy's system. But I wasn't sure still, and as time went on, you know how it goes, you're looking for a sign or whatever to help you make that decision for sure.

    "And one day, I'm down in Mississippi. I've got the satellite radio on. And I never do this, but for some reason I turned on the NFL Channel on the radio, and they're interviewing Phil Simms. I guess it was just a weird coincidence, but they asked him: 'What do you think Favre's going to do?'

    "Phil says, 'I have no idea. But I think him being the competitor he is, he'd continue playing. I know if it was me, I'd make 'em drag me off the field. I don't care what he's doing down there in Mississippi. He's got the rest of his life to do that. He's only got a year or two more he can play this game.'

    "And I thought," said Favre, "that really said it all. That helped make my decision a lot clearer. He was right. I still loved it. I wanted to play and I still thought I could be good. And there was nothing else I wanted to do as much as this.''

    I called Simms after talking with Favre and told him the story.

    "Holy crap!'' he said. "Holy crap! You are kidding me. That is unbelievable. You're serious?''

    "Very,'' I said.

    "Well, he's right. I remember it," said Simms. "I was on with Bob Papa that day, I think. I think I said, 'If it was me, they'd have to tear the uniform off me.'

    "You get to that point in your career, and you're on top of everything so well mentally, and nothing the defense throws at you can confuse you, and you just want to keep playing. Because when it's over, it's over. But that's something.

    "I've heard a lot of people say, 'Oh, Favre's coming back to a lousy team and it's going to be an awful year for him. What's he doing that for?' And I can tell you from personal experience -- sometimes your favorite year can be a year when you weren't supposed to do anything and you go 8-8. That's fun. You're just out there playing as hard as you can with a bunch of guys, nothing's expected of you, and you win some games and have fun. It's like [Bill] Parcells used to say when he was giving players advice: 'You can't always drive a Cadillac.'''

    In McCarthy's offense, which feature more short passes than previous Packers schemes, Favre will have the same sort of freedom to make the decisions he's always made, but he'll have more short and intermediate hot reads to choose from. That means he shouldn't get battered as much this year.

    It also helps that Aaron Rodgers is having a good camp this summer. McCarthy even told Favre to get lost for the last five days of organized off-season practices, which meant Rodgers could get all the reps with the first unit those days. "We found out a lot of good things about Aaron,'' McCarthy said. "I've got a lot of confidence in him right now.''

    I asked Favre: "What do you say to those who would say it's stupid for a guy like you to come back to a rebuilding team?''

    "You mean from those people who think the Packers ain't gonna be worth a s---?''

    "No,'' I said. "I mean from anyone.'' In other words, how could he say this was the most talented Green Bay team he's been around?

    "Well, that's fine,'' he said. "I'm telling you, we're going to be okay. I know people will be surprised if we're 8-8. But who knows? This year may be better; it may not be. And if there comes a point in the season where it's like it was last year, I won't walk away, but I will totally understand if Mike says, 'We're going to look to the future.' That's fine. This thing has to be about our team, not about me.''

    With the early precincts reporting, the start is inauspicious. At San Diego on Saturday night, Favre and the first offense generated zero points in four series. Stay tuned. This might not be pretty.
     
  2. thetombradyhater

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    Thankk you Phil Simms!
     
  3. 4packgirl

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    that is an awesome article - thanks for posting it!! & all hail phil simms!!! :)
     
  4. Ryan

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    Great read thanks TO.
     
  5. Chamuko

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    Well,,, that is why Brett is so great,,, thans Mr. Sims.. Thanks Brett for one more year...

    I hope this year is a real good one wo you can retire on top, who knows???
     
  6. PackerLegend

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    If the pack maybe the playoffs or really looked like they had a good shot next year he would be back.
     
  7. Packnic

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    thats a very interesting article. good stuff.... and i cant bring myself to thank phil simms. because almost every single qb and great football player that got near an interview last year, said basically the same thing. that he would regret not coming back. im just glad he heard at least one of em. and maybe phil simms was the guy he needed to hear it from for some reason.... who knows... just glad he heard and listened.
     
  8. Swamper

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    Very nice article. What I wanted to hear though was that Farve thinks the Pack will win. And that his contribution will deliver a win. Not that he think's the team will do okay or that ending the season with 8-8 is going to be a good thing.

    Perhaps a QB with a little more blood thirsty additude would build my confidence.
     
  9. cheesey

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    I think Favre still has the desire and the arm. Now, if the O-line can just keep the other team off him long enough to throw the dang ball!
     
  10. 4packgirl

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    like who?? rodgers?? :D

    seriously though - what i heard is that he still has the fire & desire to play. he's also not an idiot & understands that this team IS rebuilding. he gets criticized when he says the team is GREAT & when he says the team is GOOD - it's a no-win situation with some fans.
     
  11. Swamper

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    I want to be crystal clear. I'm not critiszing anyone. I just want to hear things that will make me feel good about my team.

    After all, it's Farve's job to make me (and only me) javascript:emoticon('qreply', 'message', ':D') feel good about the team.

    I really want to hear about what contributions he's planning on making. I want to hear how he is doing with the new coach. Perhaps we'll get more info as the season progresses.
     
  12. eastcoastpacker

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    That story made my day. I just hope that the team does good this year,if it is his last.That is why I have to go to a game this year for the first time.
     
  13. porky88

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    All Packer fans start sending thank you letters to Phil Simms.
     
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    Wonderful article. Thank you!
     
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    Phil Simms for President!
     
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    Thanks for posting this article. I enjoyed the comments from Simms and Favre. Favre has a great attitude about the whole thing. I think the coaching change may have actually made him more inclined to return. It makes things more interesting.
     
  17. Zero2Cool

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    If this forum had the points system for posts, I'd give you 10 or whatever the max was allowed.
     
  18. Philtration

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    Thanks Phil Simms!
    This sets the Packers rebuilding back at least a couple of more years.

    Nice!
     
  19. WinnipegPackFan

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    Great piece TOPackerFan. Thanks for posting it !!! As for you Phil, I can only ...... :roll:
     
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    Phil: Your posts show you to be a good Chicago Bear Fan. Why? Because you don't know any better!!
     
  21. TomAllen

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    http://www.fanmail.biz/13396.html

    Maybe we should all send him some mail to thank him. Don't know if this address works. Maybe someone can find a better one. Can anyone find his email?
     
  22. TOPackerFan

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    How so? We went 4-12 and got the #5 pick overall with Brett last year - I'm sure we can do the same this year.
     
  23. TomAllen

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    Yeah TO.

    TT can tear apart a team pretty good, can't he?

    Question is, can he put one together?
     
  24. digsthepack

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    Yeah...tearing apart a team...by getting rid of stalwart performers like C. Hunt, M. Roman....and whiney f@cks like JW.

    Good riddance!

    Can he put one together....well, I will take the last 2 drafts and the smart FA signings he has made over anything the previous regime did.
     
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    Let's not get into last years draft please........I believe I have already won that discussion :lol: . IT BLEW!!!!!!!!! One starter on a 4-12 team. One starter now after two years apparently!!!

    As for this years draft.....I love it.......SO FAR!!!
     

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