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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 448564" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I haven’t been posting on this site long. In the first post I posted on Favre in May of last year, I wrote: </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">“First, I for one <u>don't hate Favre</u>. I honestly don’t care enough about him to hate him.”</span></span></p><p><a href="http://www.packerforum.com/threads/retiring-favres-4.22286/page-3#post-301963" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">http://www.packerforum.com/threads/retiring-favres-4.22286/page-3#post-301963</span></span></u></a></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I am quoting my own post only to provide evidence that I don’t hate Favre and am not saying so only in response to the above post. Holding a grudge is only damaging IMO if it is an obsession, only if it eats at the person holding the grudge. I can’t speak for others, but that certainly doesn’t describe me. Look at my posts here – while I have been adamant about how I feel about Favre, I’ve never started a thread on him or introduced the subject on a thread. Except when the subject of Favre comes up, I never think about him. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I’m also older than most posting here – I became a young Packers fan just before Lombardi arrived (because I was born and raised in Wisconsin and because my father was a Packers fan). As I grew up, football was the sport I was best at and that probably had something to do with my remaining a fanatical Packers fan throughout the “dark ages” from Lombardi to Wolf. So I too remember Starr as the best QB in Packers history and as a HC who wasn’t ready for the job. I agree with Bart that at the time of his firing he was getting better at the job.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">By bringing up Starr you show your misunderstanding of the topic at hand. Certainly Starr was disappointed in being fired. But even those who view his time as HC as an utter failure can’t legitimately claim he attempted to sabotage the franchise. I don’t know of a single Packers fan who alleges Starr wasn’t attempting to do his very best <em>for</em> the franchise. Never – not once – did he utter a negative word about the Packers franchise. Never once did he root for Packers’ opponents. Never once did he disgrace himself. He was and remains the epitome of dignity and class. Without question Bart Starr deserves to receive the highest honor the franchise can bestow. The same cannot be said about Favre so for a lot of us, even those of us who believe he deserves a place in both HOFs, he does not deserve the highest honor. The contrast between the two men as human beings and regarding their actions vis a vis the Packers organization could hardly be more stark. What a bad example for your point of view! </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Finally one characteristic of a mature person is accepting that others can hold opinions contrary to one’s own; that many times there are legitimate points on both sides of an issue. net’s insistence that all Packers fans agree with him on this issue and his “resting his case” have a quality of immaturity. <em>Is holding his breath until everyone agrees next? </em></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 448564, member: 4300"] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]I haven’t been posting on this site long. In the first post I posted on Favre in May of last year, I wrote: [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]“First, I for one [U]don't hate Favre[/U]. I honestly don’t care enough about him to hate him.”[/FONT][/COLOR] [URL='http://www.packerforum.com/threads/retiring-favres-4.22286/page-3#post-301963'][U][COLOR=#0000ff][FONT=Tahoma]http://www.packerforum.com/threads/retiring-favres-4.22286/page-3#post-301963[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/URL] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]I am quoting my own post only to provide evidence that I don’t hate Favre and am not saying so only in response to the above post. Holding a grudge is only damaging IMO if it is an obsession, only if it eats at the person holding the grudge. I can’t speak for others, but that certainly doesn’t describe me. Look at my posts here – while I have been adamant about how I feel about Favre, I’ve never started a thread on him or introduced the subject on a thread. Except when the subject of Favre comes up, I never think about him. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]I’m also older than most posting here – I became a young Packers fan just before Lombardi arrived (because I was born and raised in Wisconsin and because my father was a Packers fan). As I grew up, football was the sport I was best at and that probably had something to do with my remaining a fanatical Packers fan throughout the “dark ages” from Lombardi to Wolf. So I too remember Starr as the best QB in Packers history and as a HC who wasn’t ready for the job. I agree with Bart that at the time of his firing he was getting better at the job.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]By bringing up Starr you show your misunderstanding of the topic at hand. Certainly Starr was disappointed in being fired. But even those who view his time as HC as an utter failure can’t legitimately claim he attempted to sabotage the franchise. I don’t know of a single Packers fan who alleges Starr wasn’t attempting to do his very best [I]for[/I] the franchise. Never – not once – did he utter a negative word about the Packers franchise. Never once did he root for Packers’ opponents. Never once did he disgrace himself. He was and remains the epitome of dignity and class. Without question Bart Starr deserves to receive the highest honor the franchise can bestow. The same cannot be said about Favre so for a lot of us, even those of us who believe he deserves a place in both HOFs, he does not deserve the highest honor. The contrast between the two men as human beings and regarding their actions vis a vis the Packers organization could hardly be more stark. What a bad example for your point of view! [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]Finally one characteristic of a mature person is accepting that others can hold opinions contrary to one’s own; that many times there are legitimate points on both sides of an issue. net’s insistence that all Packers fans agree with him on this issue and his “resting his case” have a quality of immaturity. [I]Is holding his breath until everyone agrees next? [/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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