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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 448111" data-attributes="member: 4300">It has nothing to do with "growing up" net. Just because Favre's number will be retired doesn't mean some of us have to like it. And there is nothing immature about expressing that opinion. It's my opinion the mess from 2008 on was ALL on Favre. He wasn't forced to retire and when he changed his mind about a month later the Packers were ready to welcome him back. Then he changed his mind again and stayed retired. Then he changed his mind AGAIN. He thought he was bigger than the best franchise in the league. Thank goodness Thompson and McCarthy said, 'Enough is enough!' And rather than just accepting the trade to the Jets (if all he wanted to do was play, why not stay there?), Favre betrayed the team that made him rich and famous. He was revealed to be a selfish, immature, lying pervert. And his immaturity continues as he won't have anything to do with the Packers as long as Thompson is GM. Embrace him if you like but keep in mind as a Packers fan he isn't embracing you. IMO your pretence of maturity rings hollow: It's not immature to remember Favre's actions. </blockquote>

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