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    Params: post, 447101, a:1:{i:0;s:899:"Again, I disagree. This is not Mount Olympus and these are not Greek gods. These are real people with human foibles and flaws. Most fans will forgive and forget. Can someone tell me where it says the team utilizes character issues to determine who can receive this honor? Of course they don't. To do so is to make this into something the team never intended, to morph it into something sacred in your own mind. Carriveau seems to do this. Let's say for the sake of argument people found out Nitschke drank too much and hit his wife Jackie? Should they unretire his number? Or what if Lambeau cheated on his wife and fathered a child out of wedlock? Should we change the name of the stadium? Once you say that the retired number guys should be held to a higher moral standard than the Hall Of Fame guys (which is what Carriveau's premise is), you have start ranking "acceptable" moral lapses.";}, 1458829234, 1464703934
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    Params: post, 447108, a:1:{i:0;s:545:"I agree with you Guy. If Brett was only addicted to pain killer, drank too much, or texted his junk to hot chicks while married, I would have no problem with retiring his number. It had really nothing to do with his feelings towards the Packers. However, with his hatred towards the team, wishing ill will even after his final retirement, as well as his "me first" attitude -that he was bigger than the team, is what leads me to my opinions of not honoring such a man that does not have mutal feelings and respect for the Packer organization.";}, 1458829234, 1464703934
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    Params: post, 447110, a:3:{i:0;s:242:"I obviously agree with Brian. He made a point I inferred but didn’t make explicitly: I absolutely agree retiring a player’s number is the highest honor that can be bestowed upon a Packer, and of course I agree Favre doesn’t deserve it. ";i:1;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"color";s:6:"option";s:7:"#141414";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:15:"[COLOR=#141414]";i:1;s:8:"[/COLOR]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:4:"font";s:6:"option";s:7:"Georgia";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:14:"[FONT=Georgia]";i:1;s:7:"[/FONT]";}s:8:"children";a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:33:"gwh11, post: 447101, member: 4910";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:43:"[quote="gwh11, post: 447101, member: 4910"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:248:"Can someone tell me where it says the team utilizes character issues to determine who can receive this honor? Of course they don't. To do so is to make this into something the team never intended, to morph it into something sacred in your own mind.";}}i:1;s:1:" ";}}}}i:2;s:777:"Since you are alleging you know, can you produce a document which details what the “team intended” for this honor? And your hypotheticals regarding Nitschke and Lambeau and your mention of character and morals display your misunderstanding of what many of us are saying: Favre doesn’t deserve to have his number retired because he betrayed the team, he became a traitor to the organization. His lack of class and low morals is why he shouldn’t be worshiped as some still do, but that’s not why is number shouldn’t be retired. As I’ve said before, I expect his number will be retired. Partly for financial reasons since the Packers will have to enter into a contract with Favre to benefit from future merchandise sales and partly to mollify (IMO) misguided fans.";}, 1458829234, 1464703934
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    Params: post, 447113, a:1:{i:0;s:283:"I think BF should offer the olive branch and that it would be well received. At this point, he is a spoiled, self-centered, self-righteous, egotistical, back stabbing, picture takin', diva in the eyes of many Packers fans. A little humility on his part might help heal the wounds.";}, 1458829234, 1464703934
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    Params: post, 447117, a:1:{i:0;s:171:"I dont like him. But he should have his number retired. I think it should happen when he is inducted into the HOF, not before. What is that? 6 Years for eligibility?";}, 1458829234, 1464703934
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    Params: post, 447120, a:1:{i:0;s:915:"I have some mixed feelings on this. I think both sides in this thread (including Brian's article) have made compelling points. The thing is I knew this proverbial can of worms was going to have to be opened at some point. It is inevitable. Part of me thinks they should retire his number for the many years he was a Packer but it would be all too simple if that was all there was to it. The fact it, there is not. There is still a lot of negativity from both sides surrounding this issue and I don't think it is going to go away any time soon. Funny thing is die hard BF fans probably don't want to see his number retired as a Packer because they no longer like the Packers. This is not an issue that is black and white. Both sides have made mistakes, but they must meet in the middle if they can and do what is best for all and realize that somebody is going to be unhappy with their choice no matter what they do.";}, 1458829234, 1464703934
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  127. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  128. library/sonnb/XenGallery/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  129. library/EWRporta2/BbCode/Formatter.php
  130. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Helper/Message.php
  131. library/XenForo/BbCode/TextWrapper.php
  132. library/WhoHasVisited/Listener.php
  133. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Members.php
  134. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Members.php
  135. library/Dark/TaigaChat/EventListener/NavigationTabs.php
  136. library/EWRporta2/Listener/NavTabs.php
  137. library/XenForo/Template/FileHandler.php
  138. library/XenForo/Helper/File.php
  139. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,thread_view.php
  140. library/SeparateStickyAndNormal/Listener.php
  141. library/EWRporta2/Listener/Template.php
  142. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,ignore_thread_tool.php
  143. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,page_nav.php
  144. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Posts.php
  145. library/XenForo/Model/Avatar.php
  146. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,dark_postrating_message_user_info.php
  147. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,dark_postrating.php
  148. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,bb_code_tag_quote.php
  149. library/XenForo/Helper/Criteria.php
  150. library/XenForo/Debug.php
  151. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,PAGE_CONTAINER.php
  152. library/FreePro/Helper.php
  153. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,EWRporta2_Navtabs.php
  154. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/Json.php