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<blockquote data-quote="FrankRizzo" data-source="post: 539513" data-attributes="member: 2232"><p>I want Denver. They've lost their All-Pro LT Ryan Clady and their All-Pro OLB Von Miller.</p><p>NE has lost their All-Pro NT Vince Wilfork, and All-Pro TE Rob Gronkowski. Also have lost their ILB Brandon Spikes.</p><p></p><p>San Francisco, meanwhile?</p><p></p><p>Go down the list from their most important player down to about #15, and they are ALL STILL THERE.</p><p></p><p>All 5 OL, including 3 first round picks.</p><p>QB? Sure, fine, even though he's a runner.</p><p>RB? Frank Gore? Fine, even though he has multiple ACL-tears in college. Fine now.</p><p>TE Vernon Davis? Fine.</p><p>WR Crabtree and Boldin? Fine.</p><p></p><p>ALL FOUR Pro-Bowl caliber LBers? All fine.</p><p>Top-1o DL draft picks Justin Smith and Glen Dorsey? Fine.</p><p>This year's #1 pick safety Eric Reid? He's fine too.</p><p></p><p>Seattle is also very healthy -aside from the WR position.</p><p></p><p>Let me ask you guys this.</p><p>You know (many of you do), the Seahawks have been caught many times taking Adderall.</p><p>Exactly what benefits come from Adderall are not totally know yet, but there are some obvious advantages to it.</p><p></p><p><em>Defensive end Bruce Irvin became the <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/seahawks-try-stem-tide-negative-perception-regarding-substance-014739157.html" target="_blank">sixth Seahawks player since 2010</a> to be suspended in May. Unprescribed use of the ADD drug Adderall has been the primary violation.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Asked about the Seahawks' extracurricular issues at the end of the first day of his team's minicamp on Tuesday, Harbaugh couldn't resist <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jim-harbaugh-wont-tolerate-cheating-205811368--nfl.html" target="_blank">another tweak at Carroll</a>, and a clear definition of his own coaching philosophy.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>QUOTE= ''Is it a concern? I've definitely noticed it,'' Harbaugh said of the Seahawks. ''You don't know what it is. Even when people say what it is, you don't know that that's what it is. I've heard this thrown out or that, but that's usually the agents or the players themselves saying it's, for example, Adderall. But the NFL doesn't release what it actually is, so you have no idea. You're taking somebody at their word that I don't know if you can take them at their word, understanding the circumstances.'' -</em></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/12/7/5180754/seahawks-ped-suspensions-fans-trash-talk-49ers" target="_blank">http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/12/7/5180754/seahawks-ped-suspensions-fans-trash-talk-49ers</a></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>QUOTE= Richard Sherman has stated he believed 50% of the league uses Adderall. I cannot speak to the speculation, but I have to wonder what made him come up with such a high percentage. Performance enhancing drugs have been used by world class athletes for as long as people have competed. Athletes will go to extreme lengths to obtain any kind of advantage. There are noble athletes who strive to play clean, but there will always be those seeking an edge. Athletes are well versed in how to avoid positive tests; and, even if caught, athletes can dodge quite a few consequences with savvy appeals.</em></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>SAN FRANCISCO</strong></p><p></p><p>BALCO <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Area_Laboratory_Co-operative" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Area_Laboratory_Co-operative</a></p><p></p><p><em>Among the athletes listed in the record of BALCO customers were:</em></p><p><em></em></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>MLB players: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bonds" target="_blank">Barry Bonds</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Santiago" target="_blank">Benito Santiago</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Giambi" target="_blank">Jeremy Giambi</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Estalella_(catcher)" target="_blank">Bobby Estalella</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armando_Rios" target="_blank">Armando Rios</a></em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Boxer <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Mosley" target="_blank">Shane Mosley</a>.</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>NFL players: A number from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Raiders" target="_blank">Oakland Raiders</a>, including <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Romanowski" target="_blank">Bill Romanowski</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_Wheatley" target="_blank">Tyrone Wheatley</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Robbins" target="_blank">Barrett Robbins</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Cooper_(American_football)" target="_blank">Chris Cooper</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Stubblefield" target="_blank">Dana Stubblefield</a>.</em></li> </ul><p><em>Don't forget in that same BAY AREA, where technology, pharmaceuticals, etc. are usually ahead of the times, you also had the Bash Bros. CANSECO & McGWIRE ahead of the curve there in the 1980's and 90's. It's always been a game where the cheaters are usually ahead of the testers.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong>BIOGENESIS</strong></span></p><p>MIAMI DRUG CLINIC </p><p><a href="http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-01-31/news/a-rod-and-doping-a-miami-clinic-supplies-drugs-to-sports-biggest-names/full/" target="_blank">http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-01-31/news/a-rod-and-doping-a-miami-clinic-supplies-drugs-to-sports-biggest-names/full/</a></p><p>Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports' Biggest Names</p><p></p><p>Performance-enhancing drugs, from human growth hormone (HGH) to testosterone to anabolic steroids...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankRizzo, post: 539513, member: 2232"] I want Denver. They've lost their All-Pro LT Ryan Clady and their All-Pro OLB Von Miller. NE has lost their All-Pro NT Vince Wilfork, and All-Pro TE Rob Gronkowski. Also have lost their ILB Brandon Spikes. San Francisco, meanwhile? Go down the list from their most important player down to about #15, and they are ALL STILL THERE. All 5 OL, including 3 first round picks. QB? Sure, fine, even though he's a runner. RB? Frank Gore? Fine, even though he has multiple ACL-tears in college. Fine now. TE Vernon Davis? Fine. WR Crabtree and Boldin? Fine. ALL FOUR Pro-Bowl caliber LBers? All fine. Top-1o DL draft picks Justin Smith and Glen Dorsey? Fine. This year's #1 pick safety Eric Reid? He's fine too. Seattle is also very healthy -aside from the WR position. Let me ask you guys this. You know (many of you do), the Seahawks have been caught many times taking Adderall. Exactly what benefits come from Adderall are not totally know yet, but there are some obvious advantages to it. [I]Defensive end Bruce Irvin became the [URL='http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/seahawks-try-stem-tide-negative-perception-regarding-substance-014739157.html']sixth Seahawks player since 2010[/URL] to be suspended in May. Unprescribed use of the ADD drug Adderall has been the primary violation. Asked about the Seahawks' extracurricular issues at the end of the first day of his team's minicamp on Tuesday, Harbaugh couldn't resist [URL='http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jim-harbaugh-wont-tolerate-cheating-205811368--nfl.html']another tweak at Carroll[/URL], and a clear definition of his own coaching philosophy. QUOTE= ''Is it a concern? I've definitely noticed it,'' Harbaugh said of the Seahawks. ''You don't know what it is. Even when people say what it is, you don't know that that's what it is. I've heard this thrown out or that, but that's usually the agents or the players themselves saying it's, for example, Adderall. But the NFL doesn't release what it actually is, so you have no idea. You're taking somebody at their word that I don't know if you can take them at their word, understanding the circumstances.'' -[/I] [url]http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/12/7/5180754/seahawks-ped-suspensions-fans-trash-talk-49ers[/url] [I] QUOTE= Richard Sherman has stated he believed 50% of the league uses Adderall. I cannot speak to the speculation, but I have to wonder what made him come up with such a high percentage. Performance enhancing drugs have been used by world class athletes for as long as people have competed. Athletes will go to extreme lengths to obtain any kind of advantage. There are noble athletes who strive to play clean, but there will always be those seeking an edge. Athletes are well versed in how to avoid positive tests; and, even if caught, athletes can dodge quite a few consequences with savvy appeals.[/I] [B] SAN FRANCISCO[/B] BALCO [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Area_Laboratory_Co-operative[/url] [I]Among the athletes listed in the record of BALCO customers were: [/I] [LIST] [*][I]MLB players: [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bonds']Barry Bonds[/URL], [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Santiago']Benito Santiago[/URL], [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Giambi']Jeremy Giambi[/URL], [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Estalella_(catcher)']Bobby Estalella[/URL], [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armando_Rios']Armando Rios[/URL][/I] [*][I]Boxer [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Mosley']Shane Mosley[/URL].[/I] [*][I]NFL players: A number from the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Raiders']Oakland Raiders[/URL], including [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Romanowski']Bill Romanowski[/URL], [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_Wheatley']Tyrone Wheatley[/URL], [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Robbins']Barrett Robbins[/URL], [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Cooper_(American_football)']Chris Cooper[/URL] and [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Stubblefield']Dana Stubblefield[/URL].[/I] [/LIST] [I]Don't forget in that same BAY AREA, where technology, pharmaceuticals, etc. are usually ahead of the times, you also had the Bash Bros. CANSECO & McGWIRE ahead of the curve there in the 1980's and 90's. It's always been a game where the cheaters are usually ahead of the testers.[/I] [SIZE=6][B]BIOGENESIS[/B][/SIZE] MIAMI DRUG CLINIC [url]http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-01-31/news/a-rod-and-doping-a-miami-clinic-supplies-drugs-to-sports-biggest-names/full/[/url] Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports' Biggest Names Performance-enhancing drugs, from human growth hormone (HGH) to testosterone to anabolic steroids... [/QUOTE]
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