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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce" data-source="post: 37513" data-attributes="member: 196"><p>… you’re not taking care of your own grass – Jerry Gray defensive coordinator in Buffalo.</p><p></p><p>According to some the only standard of success for coaching seems to be getting to the Super Bowl -- further, that the solution to fixing the problem and getting there is simply firing and replacing the team's coaches.</p><p></p><p>How does that apply to teams like Detroit Lions, Arizona (formerly the St Louis Cardinals, Seattle Seahawks, and New Orleans Saints??? None of these teams has ever been to a Super Bowl – so has every coach who has ever coached for these guys sucked?</p><p></p><p>Lions: Don McCaffery, Rick Forzano, Tommy Hudspeth, Monty Clark, Darryl Rogers, Wayne Fonts, Bobby Ross, Gary Moeller, Marty Mornhinweg, Steve Mariucci. (coaches during Super Bowl era)</p><p></p><p>Cardinals: Charley Winner, Bob Hollway, Don Coryell, Bud Wilkinson, Jim Hanifan, Gene Stallings, Joe Bugel, Buddy Ryan, Vince Tobin, Dave McGinnis, Dennis Green (coaches during Super Bowl era)</p><p></p><p>BTW <em><strong>for you youngsters Bud Wilkinson played on 1936 national championship team at Minnesota; coached Oklahoma to 3 national titles (1950, 55, 56); won 4 Orange and 2 Sugar Bowls; teams had winning streaks of 47 (1953-57) and 31 (1948-50); retired after 1963 season with 145-29-4 record in 17 years. Yet as the "answer" when he was coach in St. Louis, his of NFL numbers were a 9-20 record from 1978-79 -- after which he was sacked for the next "answer" Jim Hanifan.</strong></em></p><p></p><p>Saints: Tom Fears, J.D. Roberts, John North, Ernie Hefferle, Hank Stram, **** Nolan, **** Stanfel, O.A. (Bum) Phillips, Wade Phillips, Jim Mora, Rick Venturi, Mike Ditka, Jim Haslett (coaches during Super Bowl era)</p><p></p><p>Seahawks: Mike Holmgren has been Seattle’s coach for a season longer than Mike Sherman and has yet to win a playoff game. Chuck Knox never got them a playoff win either. I won’t bother listing their coaches who failed but by now you should begin to get my drift.</p><p></p><p>You all know the perennial losing franchise teams that I have not mentioned that seem to be on a continuous coaching carousel rebuilding and failing, rebuilding and failing...over-and-over </p><p></p><p>It has been 37 years since the Jets or the Colts played in a Super Bowl, and 36 since Kansas City appeared in one. Does that mean that every single coach that has been employed by them SUCKS???</p><p></p><p>How many times do you think staffs turned over and new staffs were going to be the solution to the problems that keep them from getting to the big game?</p><p></p><p>It has been 29 years since the Vikings made it to the Super Bowl and even the great Bud Grant who got them there 4 times failed to win the big one. Are all of Minnesota’s next great answers to be judged as failures too???</p><p></p><p>I honestly think too many of you missed the point of nets posting.</p><p></p><p>Be careful of what you ask -- you just might get it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce, post: 37513, member: 196"] … you’re not taking care of your own grass – Jerry Gray defensive coordinator in Buffalo. According to some the only standard of success for coaching seems to be getting to the Super Bowl -- further, that the solution to fixing the problem and getting there is simply firing and replacing the team's coaches. How does that apply to teams like Detroit Lions, Arizona (formerly the St Louis Cardinals, Seattle Seahawks, and New Orleans Saints??? None of these teams has ever been to a Super Bowl – so has every coach who has ever coached for these guys sucked? Lions: Don McCaffery, Rick Forzano, Tommy Hudspeth, Monty Clark, Darryl Rogers, Wayne Fonts, Bobby Ross, Gary Moeller, Marty Mornhinweg, Steve Mariucci. (coaches during Super Bowl era) Cardinals: Charley Winner, Bob Hollway, Don Coryell, Bud Wilkinson, Jim Hanifan, Gene Stallings, Joe Bugel, Buddy Ryan, Vince Tobin, Dave McGinnis, Dennis Green (coaches during Super Bowl era) BTW [i][b]for you youngsters Bud Wilkinson played on 1936 national championship team at Minnesota; coached Oklahoma to 3 national titles (1950, 55, 56); won 4 Orange and 2 Sugar Bowls; teams had winning streaks of 47 (1953-57) and 31 (1948-50); retired after 1963 season with 145-29-4 record in 17 years. Yet as the "answer" when he was coach in St. Louis, his of NFL numbers were a 9-20 record from 1978-79 -- after which he was sacked for the next "answer" Jim Hanifan.[/b][/i] Saints: Tom Fears, J.D. Roberts, John North, Ernie Hefferle, Hank Stram, **** Nolan, **** Stanfel, O.A. (Bum) Phillips, Wade Phillips, Jim Mora, Rick Venturi, Mike Ditka, Jim Haslett (coaches during Super Bowl era) Seahawks: Mike Holmgren has been Seattle’s coach for a season longer than Mike Sherman and has yet to win a playoff game. Chuck Knox never got them a playoff win either. I won’t bother listing their coaches who failed but by now you should begin to get my drift. You all know the perennial losing franchise teams that I have not mentioned that seem to be on a continuous coaching carousel rebuilding and failing, rebuilding and failing...over-and-over It has been 37 years since the Jets or the Colts played in a Super Bowl, and 36 since Kansas City appeared in one. Does that mean that every single coach that has been employed by them SUCKS??? How many times do you think staffs turned over and new staffs were going to be the solution to the problems that keep them from getting to the big game? It has been 29 years since the Vikings made it to the Super Bowl and even the great Bud Grant who got them there 4 times failed to win the big one. Are all of Minnesota’s next great answers to be judged as failures too??? I honestly think too many of you missed the point of nets posting. Be careful of what you ask -- you just might get it. [/QUOTE]
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