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    Params: post, 430662, a:1:{i:0;s:1910:"Good points ThxJackVainisi. The problems with this year's defense are several. Lack of personnel is one; poor fundamentals and poor execution are the others. My take is this: Regarding our own FA's, signing Finley and Wells (I believe we already signed Bush) would be beneficial as long as they don't cost that much. I think we should be able to sign Finley to a reasonable multi-year contract. Wells is 31 years old and signing him to a 2-3 year contract is all I would recommend. If his price-tag gets too high because he's a pro-bowl center, it would hurt for us to lose him. It means we would probably have to reserve a high draft pick to get us a center. Konz would be great but he will probably be gone by pick #28 and we need that pick to upgrade our defense anyway. I don't see any other FAs that really need to be kept. I still am hoping and praying we can get something decent on a sign-and-trade for Flynn. Even a high second-round pick would be very welcome. If we can get 3 picks in the 1st two rounds I don't think we need to resort to a high-profile FA but can instead search around from the diamond in the rough. Everyone's focusing on DLs and OLBs, but the best of those will probably be gone by the time #28 comes around. I'm still thinking that Mark Barron would be a great addition to this defense at safety, but apparently his stock has been rising. He was projected as a late 1st rounder, but now he's trending more toward the middle. He is everything we didnt' have last year: plays very physical at 6'2" 215, great tackler, can defend the tall WRs, good instincts and has experience with a complex defensive scheme and he has big play potential. And if Nick Collins isn't coming back I'd almost say that he's a must, and if he is, imagine those two at safety.... We can always get a OLB/DL in the second round. Guys like Crick, Curry and Branch are projected as 2nd rounders.";}, 1470665447, 1472187999
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    Params: post, 430737, a:1:{i:0;s:2533:"Jack You see the problem is this. You have drawn a parallel independent of what was quoted by Bishop. For sure I think it was a mistake to have not signed Jenkins but you and others have made a direct association from the statement made by Bishop to his acumen as a GM. Was there anywhere a reference to Thompson in it? Did anyone including Bishop say he was a better GM? Bishop only stated what he saw as a player and I happen to agree with his statement. To refresh your memory here is his statement which I posted: “(Jenkins’) ability to get after the passer is a statistic that’s underrated,” linebacker Desmond Bishop said. “(Sacks are) one of the biggest correlations between winning and losing, close to turnovers. (His absence) kind of took away from Clay’s production and the production of the defense as a whole.” Some here are tired of bringing Jenkins up but it is a valid point of the discussion regarding this past season. I think The Packers would have been a lot better off with him on the roster. Thompson made a mistake. Why is that so hard for people to accept? I see signatures as if Thompson is God like? The Eagles were smart enough to know that it was a rent for one year. We could have signed Jenkins for the same money which as it turned out wasn't all that great. But the problem was Thompson never entered into the negoitations even when the market for him came down. I'm getting tired of the injury prone argument as well regarding Jenkins. Some said Jenkins wouldn't last the year out. He missed one game! Then they downgraded his production to inforce their earlier "I love Ted" no matter what position. He had 17 1/2 pressures/sacks for the Eagles. Hell I would have done backflips over that. What did his replacements get? You can speak to Colledge but three years ago Ted also left the team without a viable option at OT. That resulted in a record # of sacks allowed and nearly got Rodgers killed. Gambling doesn't always work. Neal showed precious little in his past to roll the dice on. If you want to make the argument that Jenkins was injury prone how can you ignore the same with Neal? Jenkins was a productive player for the Packers in a 3-4 and he was a productive player for the Eagles in a 4-3 as well. You don't think he was a difference maker and I do. But I have his history and production on my side regarding Jenkins. No one expects Ted to be perfect and no one should gloss over mistakes he has made particularly in this instance. Winky eye right back at you. ;)";}, 1470665447, 1472187999
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  99. library/XenForo/Model/Forum.php
  100. library/XenForo/Helper/String.php
  101. library/XenForo/Helper/Discussion.php
  102. library/XenForo/Model/Post.php
  103. library/Dark/PostRating/Model/Post.php
  104. library/sonnbThreadMassActions/Model/Post.php
  105. library/EWRporta2/Model/Post.php
  106. library/EWRporta2/Model/Articles.php
  107. library/XenForo/Model/Attachment.php
  108. library/XenForo/Model/Node.php
  109. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Model/Node.php
  110. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Categories.php
  111. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Forums.php
  112. library/XenForo/ControllerResponse/View.php
  113. library/XenForo/ControllerResponse/Abstract.php
  114. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Model/IgnoreThread.php
  115. library/XenForo/Helper/Cookie.php
  116. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/HtmlPublic.php
  117. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/Abstract.php
  118. library/XenForo/Template/Public.php
  119. library/XenForo/Template/Abstract.php
  120. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Thread/View.php
  121. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Base.php
  122. library/XenForo/View.php
  123. library/EWRporta2/Listener/ViewPublic.php
  124. library/XenForo/BbCode/Parser.php
  125. library/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  126. library/EWRporta2/Listener/BbCode.php
  127. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  128. library/sonnb/XenGallery/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  129. library/EWRporta2/BbCode/Formatter.php
  130. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Helper/Message.php
  131. library/XenForo/BbCode/TextWrapper.php
  132. library/WhoHasVisited/Listener.php
  133. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Members.php
  134. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Members.php
  135. library/Dark/TaigaChat/EventListener/NavigationTabs.php
  136. library/EWRporta2/Listener/NavTabs.php
  137. library/XenForo/Template/FileHandler.php
  138. library/XenForo/Helper/File.php
  139. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,thread_view.php
  140. library/SeparateStickyAndNormal/Listener.php
  141. library/EWRporta2/Listener/Template.php
  142. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,ignore_thread_tool.php
  143. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,page_nav.php
  144. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Posts.php
  145. library/XenForo/Model/Avatar.php
  146. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,dark_postrating_message_user_info.php
  147. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,dark_postrating.php
  148. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,bb_code_tag_quote.php
  149. library/XenForo/Helper/Criteria.php
  150. library/XenForo/Debug.php
  151. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,PAGE_CONTAINER.php
  152. library/FreePro/Helper.php
  153. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,EWRporta2_Navtabs.php
  154. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/Json.php