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<blockquote data-quote="Carl" data-source="post: 530035" data-attributes="member: 9497"><p>And if you want facts about how teams win and lose with their QB's, here are some:</p><p></p><p>Colts without Manning 2-14. Vikings 3-13 with bad Favre. Texans awful when Schaub gets worse. Chiefs now one of the best with Smith. Cardinals much better with Warner and now with Palmer. Seahawks not contenders until Wilson. 49ers not contenders until Smith gets better and then Kaepernick plays well. Redskins make the playoffs last season with a good RG3. Eagles much worse after McNabb. Vick plays well and they get better. Vick plays worse and the team is worse. Now Foles plays well and they are better. The Lions always terrible until Stafford comes around and they make the playoffs. Saints weren't contenders until Brees. Packers NFC championship with Favre, 6-10 in Rodgers first year, and then get better when Rodgers gets better. Bengals don't make the playoffs until Dalton comes around. Those are all off the top of my head. Cassel's season was an exception. </p><p></p><p>Only two teams have won the Super Bowl in recent history with average QB play. Both of those teams had historically good defenses. Look at the Browns right now. Good defense + bad QB play = bad team. The Jaguars, Raiders, and Bills have all been awful for years and guess what? They've had bad QB play for years. </p><p></p><p>So tell me more about how the Packers should be better without Rodgers and his backup. Why don't you give me facts to show how teams do well with their third/fourth option? </p><p></p><p>The vast majority of the time, teams win with good QB play and lose with bad QB play. That's a fact.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Carl, post: 530035, member: 9497"] And if you want facts about how teams win and lose with their QB's, here are some: Colts without Manning 2-14. Vikings 3-13 with bad Favre. Texans awful when Schaub gets worse. Chiefs now one of the best with Smith. Cardinals much better with Warner and now with Palmer. Seahawks not contenders until Wilson. 49ers not contenders until Smith gets better and then Kaepernick plays well. Redskins make the playoffs last season with a good RG3. Eagles much worse after McNabb. Vick plays well and they get better. Vick plays worse and the team is worse. Now Foles plays well and they are better. The Lions always terrible until Stafford comes around and they make the playoffs. Saints weren't contenders until Brees. Packers NFC championship with Favre, 6-10 in Rodgers first year, and then get better when Rodgers gets better. Bengals don't make the playoffs until Dalton comes around. Those are all off the top of my head. Cassel's season was an exception. Only two teams have won the Super Bowl in recent history with average QB play. Both of those teams had historically good defenses. Look at the Browns right now. Good defense + bad QB play = bad team. The Jaguars, Raiders, and Bills have all been awful for years and guess what? They've had bad QB play for years. So tell me more about how the Packers should be better without Rodgers and his backup. Why don't you give me facts to show how teams do well with their third/fourth option? The vast majority of the time, teams win with good QB play and lose with bad QB play. That's a fact. [/QUOTE]
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