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What to these teams have in common?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by net, Jun 12, 2006.

  1. net

    net Cheesehead

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    Minnesota 16 35 24 11 30 16 14 5
    Chicago 16 34 24 10 28 15 13 6
    Pittsburgh 16 30 15 15 23 14 9 7
    Tampa Bay 16 30 17 13 23 14 9 7
    Kansas City 16 31 16 15 23 10 13 8
    Seattle 16 27 16 11 17 10 7 10
    Jacksonville 16 28 19 9 17 6 11 11
    New York (N) 16 36 17 19 25 17 8 11
    Indianapolis 16 31 18 13 19 11 8 12
    Carolina 16 42 23 19 26 16 10 16
    Denver 16 36 20 16 16 7 9 20
    Cincinnati 16 44 31 13 20 14 6 24

    All of them except Minnesota and Kansas City made the playoffs.

    What do these 12 teams have in common?

    Green Bay 16 21 10 11 45 30 15 -24
    New Orleans 16 19 10 9 43 24 19 -24
    Arizona 16 26 15 11 37 21 16 -11
    Baltimore 16 26 12 14 36 21 15 -10
    St. Louis 16 27 13 14 37 24 13 -10
    San Francisco 16 26 16 10 35 21 14 -9
    San Diego 16 20 10 10 28 16 12 -8
    Houston 16 16 7 9 24 13 11 -8
    Cleveland 16 23 15 8 30 18 12 -7
    Philadelphia 16 27 17 10 34 20 14 -7
    New England 16 18 10 8 24 15 9 -6
    New York (A) 16 28 21 7 34 15 19 -6

    With the exception of New England, all of them MISSED the playoffs.

    This is the giveaway/takeaway ratio from NFL stats. Notice Green Bay led the league(tied with New Orleans) for having the poorest giveaway/takeaway ratio?

    The last number reflects being in a deficit. Cincinnati was +24 compared to the Packers -24.

    So when you think that...."Oh, that turnover doesn't mean much", keep this chart in mind. The Packers defense overall was 7th in the league, meaning they were doing their part.
     
  2. Buckeyepackfan

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    That damn Mike Sherman screwed us again.(SOMEHOW IT HAS TO BE HIS FAULT). :D :D :D

    Turnover ratio has always been one of the most important stats relating to win-loss record.

    Another is time of possesion, with all the injuries last year on offense, these two stats really showed up. The Pack had no running game for most of the year and no O-line to protect Brett.
     
  3. CalifPacker

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    With nearly half the defensive personnel changing next season I would expect a big change in the Packers position.
     
  4. pyledriver80

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    Yeah we need to force some more turnovers, and not turn it over so much ourselves. Rocket science at it's finest!


    But seriously, I don't know if it will happen. The reason we can't force turnovers is because we lack a pass rush that will make the QB react quicker than he needs to. Has this improved? Not really, now we just have Pickett instead of Grady. Maybe we can blitz the backers more since we have better coverage in the secondary. I see a slight increase in takeaways but nothing dramatic.


    On offense we need to give Brett more time to throw and establish a ground game. Again, with this line not sure this will happen. Of couse it also helps if Ahman and Gado hold on to the pigskin!
     
  5. porky88

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    That's what happens when you have a injury depleted team and a QB who makes stupid throws every game and ends up wtih 29 INT's. If Favre plays better which I think he will, that numbers will go down.
     
  6. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    29 INT
    5? Fumbles

    34 turnovers.

    That's almost giving the other team two extra chances every game. And yet we were only 'blown' out a handful of times.



    edit, TO's from Brett
     
  7. Drich318

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    You are preaching to the choir. Brett can't have another 29 INT season. or 30 INT, I stopped counting sometime during the middle portion of the season. Also, our RBs NEED to hang on to the football. Stop acting like the football is covered in slime during the game. Use two hands, and protect the ball when running through the hole.
    A healthy and capable OL will help greatly in both areas. Brett was pressured on almost every pass attempt, and not all eligible recievers were able to go out for pass attepmts b/c we had to keep some of them in for protection, and the opposition still got to Brett on seemingly every other play. Also, if Green stays healthy, the runnning game is going to be much better, and there won't be as many fumbles, b/c Green seems to improve on his ball handling skills as he gets more touches.
     
  8. spacecoastpkrfan

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    Brett playing better is a given...receivers running the proper routes, reacting better to the ball, not giving up on it (a la Fergie) and having shorter routes in the WCO will all serve to improve the turnover ratio as well as time of possession. Factor in our upgraded LB/DB corps along with a healthier team should make us a force to be reckoned with.
     

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