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<blockquote data-quote="Sunshinepacker" data-source="post: 913253" data-attributes="member: 9033"><p>Quick question on MVS:</p><p></p><p>Where are people getting the hope for a breakout season? Hear me out, I'm not trying to discuss whether it happens or not, I'm just trying to understand WHERE people think the improvement will come from. There are basically three ways for a receiver to improve (only looking at receiving):</p><p></p><p>1) More yards after the catch</p><p>2) Deeper targets</p><p>3) More receptions</p><p></p><p>For MVS, which of these do you think MVS is going to improve upon (and I'm assuming Rodgers is the QB)? I don't see deeper targets being an option. More yards after the catch would be nice but I'm not sure it's realistic since he averaged 7.7 yards after catch last season (which is really high).</p><p></p><p>The only realistic way I could see him improving markedly is with more receptions and that's only going to happen if he improves his catch rate OR if he gets more targets.</p><p></p><p>He could improve his catch percentage but the kind of deep passes he's generally targeted with aren't high percentage routes. He caught 52% of his targets last season. If we assume he caught 60% this season (and everything else is the same), he would have 100 more yards this season. That's better but it's not what I would think is a breakout.</p><p></p><p>Really, in my mind, the most likely route to him breaking out would be to garner more targets but doing that would require him to make a pretty significant leap in route running, no? He lead the NFL in yards per catch last year because a) he's big and fast and b) he doesn't really run any routes that aren't deep (so his average isn't lowered by short or intermediate targets). Do people expect him to get 30+ more targets in the short/intermediate areas this year? Because that would really be the most likely way for him to improve over last season. I just don't think the Packers can throw deep an extra 5+ times a game this season in the MLF offense.</p><p></p><p>I just want to understand the logic and the math behind projections of MVS making a jump this year. I want to be convinced because MVS making a big leap would be terrific for the offense. I just don't think he's the kind of route runner that can make that kind of leap. Or maybe my idea of a breakout season is different than others. When I think breakout for MVS I'm thinking close to 1,000 yards receiving.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunshinepacker, post: 913253, member: 9033"] Quick question on MVS: Where are people getting the hope for a breakout season? Hear me out, I'm not trying to discuss whether it happens or not, I'm just trying to understand WHERE people think the improvement will come from. There are basically three ways for a receiver to improve (only looking at receiving): 1) More yards after the catch 2) Deeper targets 3) More receptions For MVS, which of these do you think MVS is going to improve upon (and I'm assuming Rodgers is the QB)? I don't see deeper targets being an option. More yards after the catch would be nice but I'm not sure it's realistic since he averaged 7.7 yards after catch last season (which is really high). The only realistic way I could see him improving markedly is with more receptions and that's only going to happen if he improves his catch rate OR if he gets more targets. He could improve his catch percentage but the kind of deep passes he's generally targeted with aren't high percentage routes. He caught 52% of his targets last season. If we assume he caught 60% this season (and everything else is the same), he would have 100 more yards this season. That's better but it's not what I would think is a breakout. Really, in my mind, the most likely route to him breaking out would be to garner more targets but doing that would require him to make a pretty significant leap in route running, no? He lead the NFL in yards per catch last year because a) he's big and fast and b) he doesn't really run any routes that aren't deep (so his average isn't lowered by short or intermediate targets). Do people expect him to get 30+ more targets in the short/intermediate areas this year? Because that would really be the most likely way for him to improve over last season. I just don't think the Packers can throw deep an extra 5+ times a game this season in the MLF offense. I just want to understand the logic and the math behind projections of MVS making a jump this year. I want to be convinced because MVS making a big leap would be terrific for the offense. I just don't think he's the kind of route runner that can make that kind of leap. Or maybe my idea of a breakout season is different than others. When I think breakout for MVS I'm thinking close to 1,000 yards receiving. [/QUOTE]
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