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<blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 911738" data-attributes="member: 7261"><p>I still think you are lumping 3 groups (Players, owners and fans) into 2....Leave fans out of the discussion and it becomes a bit easier to understand.</p><p></p><p>Yes, players are making a ton more money than they did 50, 40 or even 10 years ago, but this power you speak of is either real power or perceived power. Again, don't mix those up. The NFLPA through the CBA have definitely given players more power, as have agents and better negotiated contracts, but all that power is given through contracts. This perceived power, that you seem to think either exists or should, isn't real power, its perceived (by you). Players don't get auto raises due to performance, unless it is contracted. Players don't get input into Management decisions, unless its an informal policy of the organization. </p><p></p><p>Your notion that "ppl like when the employees get more power over the CEO" is really a huge generalization and I would disagree with it. Don't get me wrong, I love "Employee run businesses" when they thrive and succeed". However, I also love a great business that is run from the top down and treats their employees well. I have seen both types of business structures succeed and fail.</p><p></p><p>Imagine the NFL if the Players ran it. I think it would be a free for all quickly and turn into what we see every year during the NBA All Star game, just a bunch of guys wanting to show off. Or even worse, the Pro Bowl game. Correct me if I am wrong, but you also seem to think Rodgers "earned the ability to have management type of influence." While I agree with you that informally it might be the case (slightly) with guys like Brady, Brees and a few others, but that just happens to be the way those organizations ran. The Packers never seemed to operate that way and for you or Rodgers to suddenly expect or demand it, isn't correct either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pokerbrat2000, post: 911738, member: 7261"] I still think you are lumping 3 groups (Players, owners and fans) into 2....Leave fans out of the discussion and it becomes a bit easier to understand. Yes, players are making a ton more money than they did 50, 40 or even 10 years ago, but this power you speak of is either real power or perceived power. Again, don't mix those up. The NFLPA through the CBA have definitely given players more power, as have agents and better negotiated contracts, but all that power is given through contracts. This perceived power, that you seem to think either exists or should, isn't real power, its perceived (by you). Players don't get auto raises due to performance, unless it is contracted. Players don't get input into Management decisions, unless its an informal policy of the organization. Your notion that "ppl like when the employees get more power over the CEO" is really a huge generalization and I would disagree with it. Don't get me wrong, I love "Employee run businesses" when they thrive and succeed". However, I also love a great business that is run from the top down and treats their employees well. I have seen both types of business structures succeed and fail. Imagine the NFL if the Players ran it. I think it would be a free for all quickly and turn into what we see every year during the NBA All Star game, just a bunch of guys wanting to show off. Or even worse, the Pro Bowl game. Correct me if I am wrong, but you also seem to think Rodgers "earned the ability to have management type of influence." While I agree with you that informally it might be the case (slightly) with guys like Brady, Brees and a few others, but that just happens to be the way those organizations ran. The Packers never seemed to operate that way and for you or Rodgers to suddenly expect or demand it, isn't correct either. [/QUOTE]
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