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What to do with Mason Crosby?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by SanDiegoCheese, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. SanDiegoCheese

    SanDiegoCheese West Coast Cheesehead

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    We're gonna need a reliable kicker the rest of the season, and if we hope to make a run come playoff time. What do we do: stick with Mason, or look for another kicker?
     
  2. Shawnsta3

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    Give Crosby a few weeks. He's shown in the past he's way too good of a talent to just let go when he gets in a slump.

    Crosby is slumping right now yes. I feel bad for him. Greg Jennings couldn't even get that "Dougie" smile out of him. I know it's his job and he's getting paid millions for it and everything. But before this slump he was doing really well and now that will be overshadowed.

    I was a big supporter of him before this. Heck, he came into the year on fire with 16 in a row dating back to last year. But now, well I don't know how long this slump will last. And we can't afford to have him missing kicks in the playoffs when it might will matter. We can't keep 2 kickers on the roster either. He's just got to get back to his basics and start pushing em' through again.
     
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  3. Bensalama21

    Bensalama21 Ben

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    People forget that he is amazing at onside kicks and kickoffs still. And people seemed to love him when he had 17 field goals in a row. Its because of the haters themselves that he is doing bad. Confidence is the most important thing when kicking.
     
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  4. jaybadger82

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    He's having a rough stretch but we recognize that it's foolish to overreact: Crosby's 131 career makes in 165 attempts (over 79%) are more important than his 11 makes in 18 attempts this season (over 61%).

    If you don't recognize the dangers of such a small sample size, go back to math class. You're following the wrong sport.
     
  5. 12theTruth

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    That's funny. I'd think it'd have to do with poor mechanics.

    What the Packer's need to do is open up a spot on the practice squad. Sign best available FG which is eligible to place on practice squad. Have a serviceable option in place in case Crosby can't correct his poor FG kicking woes of recent times.

    If Crosby has jumped the shark, the Packers need the insurance.
     
  6. Alex

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    McCarthy has already stated they are sticking with him
     
  7. 12theTruth

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    Yeh the Lakers also gave a vote of confidence to head coach Mike Brown. He was fired the next day. It is clear from McCarthy's reaction to Crosby during the game that these misses will not go on as they have been. Not saying they'll immediately get rid of Crosby but a good option is get a valid backup plan on practice squad should Crosby keep stinking it up.
     
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    Longwell is looking for a job!
     
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  9. melvin dangerr

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    too late now for a change, Crosby should be thanking the kicking Gods that Jimmy Johnson is not the coach...
     
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    A couple teams have a guy who is a kickoff specialist and one who. Kicks field goals. Id take that approach. Crosby has zero confidence right now. His bad
     
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  11. SanDiegoCheese

    SanDiegoCheese West Coast Cheesehead

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    But the kicker position is a what have you done for me lately position. Just ask Nate Kaeding. He's the most accurate kicker kicker in NFL history and currently unemployed.
     
  12. longtimefan

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    From Mason

     
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  13. Bensalama21

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    I played kicker in high school, along with receiver and cornerback. I know a little bit about confidence when kicking. I have missed extra points, and I have made a 57 yarder. I doubt it is ever poor mechanics, but if it ever was (at a pro level) it would be because of a lack of focus due to a lack of confidence. When Phil Mickelson misses an easy putt, would you blame that on poor mechanics? Probably not.
     
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  14. 12theTruth

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    Nobody is rooting for Mason Crosby to fail. Positive encouragement is awesome and if it helps Crosby right the woes than great. But he is starting to sound like he has an extremely fragile mental fortitude.

    The worst thing a player can do would be to read Internet forums, facebook pages, etc for emotional support. Heck if Finley did that he would be committed by now with all the venom lobbed his way.

    The Packers can't really afford to take the chance of NOT adding insurance in case Crosby doesn't get his MIND right for his kicks.
     
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    You're right! -and the management in San Diego has done such a great job the past few years!

    This discussion is characteristic of what-have-you-done-for-me-lately fans.

    So what happens when the next guy goes 1 for 3 in a game?

    Sure, Crosby's been lousy thus far but, again, we're dealing with a remarkably small sample with just eighteen attempts this season. If the coaches that watch him every day are behind him, that's more credible to me than fans wringing their hands and overreacting to the last game... Regression toward the mean, my friend. I think he improves.
     
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  16. SanDiegoCheese

    SanDiegoCheese West Coast Cheesehead

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    I see your point, personally I like the guy and he's been reliable until recently, but I wouldn't be against bringing in some competition if his struggles continue.
     
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  17. 12theTruth

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    This long FG thing just isn't the last several weeks, its a season long problem. Crosby didn't make a FG longer than 50 yards in preseason games and then you have his peculiar performance in the family night scrimmage. http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/08/06/packers-family-night-faux-pas-messing-with-mason-crosby/

    Something must have happened mentally or physically where he can't adequately hit the long FG's anymore and now that deficiency has affected his mental state which effects his shorter FG's as of late.
     
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  18. SanDiegoCheese

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    I'm with you. I apologize my response wasn't clear: he's been reliable up till this season. He's look out of sync this year. I just hope he can figure out whatever his issue may be, sooner rather than later.
     
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    The kicks are coming off clean, but his aim is off. I'm thinking he needs to see a sports psychologist very soon.
     
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    Stick with the man. The best way for him to regain his confidence is for his team and coaches to continue to show confidence IN him. Greg Jennings trying to cheer him up on the sideline may have done more good than you might imagine (it also showed GJ is ready to take that leadership role that got Driver on the roster this year.) Even Gary Anderson once had a stretch where he went something like 6 for 14 early on in his career. He snapped out of it. Mason will too.

    I'm thinking about going back and looking at all his misses over the past 4 weeks. Masthay might be as much to blame as Crosby is. Those last two holds (the second miss and the final FG) looked like the laces were nowhere near facing forward. Those laces act like a rudder in the air and can make a good kick hook like a sonofabitch. The last one flew like a knuckle ball. I was a holder at a small college and believe me, it's more complicated than it looks (some of you may remember the in-depth explanation of what goes into a good hold that I made a couple years ago) at this level. Proper holds are much more critical in college and pro than in high school, where most coaches won't even think about anything further than a 35-yard FG.
     
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    Packer fans should too. Does no good to hire a has-been/never-was off the street who is unfamiliar with the holder and out of practice.
     
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  22. 12theTruth

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    That is what a spot on the practice squad would be for an insurance policy in case Crosby does NOT right his problems. Has beens? Josh Brown would be an equal or better 53 man roster solution to Mason Crosby, especially the way Crosby is playing now.
     
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  23. GreenBlood

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    You do know that a successful attempt is a 3 part equation, right? Snap, hold, kick. If any one of those things isn't perfect, chances of a miss go up. It looks to me like both Mason and Tim are off their game. Goode's snaps have been perfect. Mason made 17 straight kicks. You don't do that without talent. He'll be fine.
     
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    There's a reason Brown isn't on a team right now. His leg is significantly weaker the last couple years. Patience is key.
     
  25. PFanCan

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    What to do with Mason Crosby?

    Let him kick FGs like they have been doing since he arrived. We've all had slumps. They happen. Work through it.
     
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