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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Packerlifer" data-source="post: 247489" data-attributes="member: 1242"><p>The Packers were 14-4 in 2007, not Faver. Unless you're willing to say that Favre was 4-12 in 2005, 8-8 in 2006, or is 0-5 in his last 5 playoff starts.    It's true he had a great year in '07 but the team was lifted as much or more by the play of the defense & special teams that season and by the emergence of Ryan Grant in the second half. Who do you think did more to win the Seattle playoff game; Grant or Favre?      It's also not exactly true that the Packers kicked Faver out. But they did have a much younger and ready Aaron Rodgers they needed to get on the field and Favre had had more than an ample career to add to his records and laurels. But if Favre had given a clear and early commitment to playing another year they would have taken him back.    But he retired. Remember that big teary-eyed show he put on at the Packers' headquarters in March of '08. He waffled afterward but never said anything definite about coming back until four months later, almost on the eve of training camp. By then the Packers had "moved on."    He wasn't traded until he tried to crash the camp and forced the issue. And that's where his obsession with avenging himself on the Packers and denying the march of time began.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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