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<blockquote data-quote="Do7" data-source="post: 799304" data-attributes="member: 13398"><p>Ooooo a tough customer! Alright I'm game!</p><p></p><p>1. That first point was in regards to how Greg left in which he would later on admit it was largely sour grapes on his part. Plus as I recall this was the same Jennings that signed an autograph which said Packers suck which I saw on here as well. I never mentioned anything regarding Favre but I don't ever recall him saying anything negative regarding Rodgers' effectiveness as a leader being brought into question. You're more than free to show me. Plus I never said to dismiss them did I? I just found it interesting that someone would put stock into what he said considering how he not only left, but how he backtracked after wards. Again there have been plenty other of players that left Green Bay that haven't spoken negatively regarding Rodgers and as I mentioned in my last statement if you want to criticize him that was fine, but so long as you look at the positives his former teammates have spoken about him as well, which based off the people I mentioned certainly outnumber the bad. Especially considering one is a bonafide HOF in Charles Woodson. If you want to focus on the negativity in which Rodgers has been criticized by former teammates you risk going in the Skip Bayless, Colin Cowherd territory that paints him as a bad teammate when there is evidence that points to the contrary.</p><p></p><p>2. In regards with Finley, tell me was anything I said regarding him was wrong? Again for someone who never lived up to his potential and often times was a headcase of his own, I would find it weird how he's calling someone else out. I would dare say it's hypocritical on his part. Again context. Had he gone and lived up to his potential, that certainly will give him more...credibility for lack of better words.</p><p></p><p>3. So by discounting what Driver said you're referring to what he actually said? I didn't discount anything the dude said. If you INTERPRETED as him criticizing Rodgers, that's fine. And I know for a fact that he wasn't trying to be critical on Rodgers because he flat out said he wasn't on Twitter when Packer fans inquired him about it.</p><p></p><p>4. What I find interesting is that you're saying that I'm trying to discrediting when I gave you my reasons as to why it's hard for me to take what said players in plain value. Greg was mentioned, to which I mentioned how it was from sour grapes to which he later on admitted himself. Finley was mentioned to which I said I found it hypocritical considering how much of a diva he could be, let alone the fact that he never played to his full potential and would often drop passes. Also if these players had gone on to have better careers outside of Green Bay that would be one thing, but to highly critical of someone who you had arguably your best years with is mind boggling.</p><p></p><p>5. And in regards to those who were critical of Aaron I never said they were wrong did I? You assumed I did. I even said in my original post it was fine if you wanted to take what they said into consideration, (I may have not worded it exactly like that but it's there) but so long as you do it with EVERYONE including the former teammates that had nothing but positive things to say regarding Rodgers. That way you have proper CONTEXT, and based off what was said regarding him, the good certainly outweighs any critical remarks regarding him. It's just that guys like Colin and Bayless like to manipulate and highlight on that in order to fit their narrative.</p><p></p><p>6. Dude just because you don't agree with what I said, doesn't mean your on my bad side. I welcome debates, and if there is something you bring up which I hadn't thought to consider, I'll be the first one to admit and understand where you are coming from dude. We're all Packer fans here. We bleed Green and Gold. So just because we may not necessarily see eye to eye doesn't mean I don't respect your opinion because I do. You have your concerns regarding Arodg and that's fine. I do understand that in some eyes people can see it as him being a blame deflector. We are all modeled a different way. All I can do is offer how I see things. It'll be up to you if you agree or disagree.</p><p></p><p>I accept your olive branch but rest assured. You didn't anger nor offend me. I hope I didn't with you with my thoughts. I enjoy having debates.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Do7, post: 799304, member: 13398"] Ooooo a tough customer! Alright I'm game! 1. That first point was in regards to how Greg left in which he would later on admit it was largely sour grapes on his part. Plus as I recall this was the same Jennings that signed an autograph which said Packers suck which I saw on here as well. I never mentioned anything regarding Favre but I don't ever recall him saying anything negative regarding Rodgers' effectiveness as a leader being brought into question. You're more than free to show me. Plus I never said to dismiss them did I? I just found it interesting that someone would put stock into what he said considering how he not only left, but how he backtracked after wards. Again there have been plenty other of players that left Green Bay that haven't spoken negatively regarding Rodgers and as I mentioned in my last statement if you want to criticize him that was fine, but so long as you look at the positives his former teammates have spoken about him as well, which based off the people I mentioned certainly outnumber the bad. Especially considering one is a bonafide HOF in Charles Woodson. If you want to focus on the negativity in which Rodgers has been criticized by former teammates you risk going in the Skip Bayless, Colin Cowherd territory that paints him as a bad teammate when there is evidence that points to the contrary. 2. In regards with Finley, tell me was anything I said regarding him was wrong? Again for someone who never lived up to his potential and often times was a headcase of his own, I would find it weird how he's calling someone else out. I would dare say it's hypocritical on his part. Again context. Had he gone and lived up to his potential, that certainly will give him more...credibility for lack of better words. 3. So by discounting what Driver said you're referring to what he actually said? I didn't discount anything the dude said. If you INTERPRETED as him criticizing Rodgers, that's fine. And I know for a fact that he wasn't trying to be critical on Rodgers because he flat out said he wasn't on Twitter when Packer fans inquired him about it. 4. What I find interesting is that you're saying that I'm trying to discrediting when I gave you my reasons as to why it's hard for me to take what said players in plain value. Greg was mentioned, to which I mentioned how it was from sour grapes to which he later on admitted himself. Finley was mentioned to which I said I found it hypocritical considering how much of a diva he could be, let alone the fact that he never played to his full potential and would often drop passes. Also if these players had gone on to have better careers outside of Green Bay that would be one thing, but to highly critical of someone who you had arguably your best years with is mind boggling. 5. And in regards to those who were critical of Aaron I never said they were wrong did I? You assumed I did. I even said in my original post it was fine if you wanted to take what they said into consideration, (I may have not worded it exactly like that but it's there) but so long as you do it with EVERYONE including the former teammates that had nothing but positive things to say regarding Rodgers. That way you have proper CONTEXT, and based off what was said regarding him, the good certainly outweighs any critical remarks regarding him. It's just that guys like Colin and Bayless like to manipulate and highlight on that in order to fit their narrative. 6. Dude just because you don't agree with what I said, doesn't mean your on my bad side. I welcome debates, and if there is something you bring up which I hadn't thought to consider, I'll be the first one to admit and understand where you are coming from dude. We're all Packer fans here. We bleed Green and Gold. So just because we may not necessarily see eye to eye doesn't mean I don't respect your opinion because I do. You have your concerns regarding Arodg and that's fine. I do understand that in some eyes people can see it as him being a blame deflector. We are all modeled a different way. All I can do is offer how I see things. It'll be up to you if you agree or disagree. I accept your olive branch but rest assured. You didn't anger nor offend me. I hope I didn't with you with my thoughts. I enjoy having debates. [/QUOTE]
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