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<blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 842172" data-attributes="member: 7261"><p>You took the words right out of my mouth. People can break film down all they want and in slow motion and from up above. Could probably nitpick every play to death as to how "this player or that player didn't do this or that." Well first of all, the players aren't seeing this in slow motion or from above. Second, as Modio pointed out, Ben doesn't even seem to know what he is talking about here. AR probably doesn't pick up the first down with a toss to Graham, so why risk a tipped ball and an easy pick 6? MVS was barely coming into Rodgers line of site, as the pocket collapsed into #12's face, I don't even think he could have gotten a pass off and if he had tried, probably would have been tipped at the LOS and maybe not even a first down if ALL went well. I'm disappointed in Ben, he didn't even see the 3rd Packer WR that was WIDE open as Rodgers was hitting the ground. Chalk that play up to a great pass rush and an OL that collapsed.</p><p></p><p>I'm just a fan, but my one big criticism of the Packers offense over the years is WR's running routes short of the first down chains on 3rd down. If you are going to run a route near the chains, cross the damn first down line before the ball gets there. I understand the principle of YAC, but often times, the guys catching the ball that close to the LOS are pretty well covered and there are no YAC. I have no problem with RB screens in that situation, but you better have a shifty back and a good OL pulling out ahead of him. In that play, Graham was out there as the only Packer, one yard off the LOS and pretty well covered by the Bears.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pokerbrat2000, post: 842172, member: 7261"] You took the words right out of my mouth. People can break film down all they want and in slow motion and from up above. Could probably nitpick every play to death as to how "this player or that player didn't do this or that." Well first of all, the players aren't seeing this in slow motion or from above. Second, as Modio pointed out, Ben doesn't even seem to know what he is talking about here. AR probably doesn't pick up the first down with a toss to Graham, so why risk a tipped ball and an easy pick 6? MVS was barely coming into Rodgers line of site, as the pocket collapsed into #12's face, I don't even think he could have gotten a pass off and if he had tried, probably would have been tipped at the LOS and maybe not even a first down if ALL went well. I'm disappointed in Ben, he didn't even see the 3rd Packer WR that was WIDE open as Rodgers was hitting the ground. Chalk that play up to a great pass rush and an OL that collapsed. I'm just a fan, but my one big criticism of the Packers offense over the years is WR's running routes short of the first down chains on 3rd down. If you are going to run a route near the chains, cross the damn first down line before the ball gets there. I understand the principle of YAC, but often times, the guys catching the ball that close to the LOS are pretty well covered and there are no YAC. I have no problem with RB screens in that situation, but you better have a shifty back and a good OL pulling out ahead of him. In that play, Graham was out there as the only Packer, one yard off the LOS and pretty well covered by the Bears. [/QUOTE]
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