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<blockquote data-quote="packa7x" data-source="post: 446255" data-attributes="member: 6594"><p>Jay, I feel like we agree more than we think. I apologize if I came off a bit confrontational, you're much more levelheaded than others I have had this conversation with. </p><p></p><p>I'm not arguing the NFLPA shouldn't be asking for more. They should be. It's their job to exercise every option in order to protect its constituents. I just think we should stop and think about why the NFL would fabricate or exaggerate a story like this and what they'd stand to gain by this compared to why the NFLPA would lie or try to muddy the waters. It's pretty likely that the union is lying, bending the truth, being intentionally deceitful, etc. </p><p></p><p>I truly don't think the focus on bounties comes ftom head injuries. I'm a sports management major at Rutgers University and I've done research on head injuries in football and have even sent proposals to the NJSIAA about ways to reduce concussions in football. The new awareness on head injuries fascinates me. I played 4 years in high school and suffered 3 concussions. Honestly, there's no relationship between the two. Goodell wants to stop bounties because it's bad for the image and the competitive nature of the sport.</p><p></p><p>The NFLPA is winning support for their cause. Go to any forum or football site with commenters and you'll see it's about 50/50. Half believe the NFL is truthful, the other half do not. Some people are natural skeptics and the NFLPA is giving them enough doubt to make them believe the NFL is lying.</p><p></p><p>If you're a capable NFL athlete, you'll latch on. Do you know why a Babe Ruth card with no autograph, bent corners, a crease, and discoloration sells for ten times what a Joe Montana autographed card does? Because it's rare. People with that size/speed combo are rare. There would be a place for him. If guys like Randy Moss and Pacman Jones aren't blacklisted, Hargrove wouldn't be either.</p><p></p><p>As for White, I'm sure she saw other evidence too. I understand she's paid by the NFL, but she wouldn't publicly affirm the NFL without being sure that there's at least a good chance of it standing up. Reading the actual Hargrove document, it predictably falls between where the NFL and Hargrove says it is. It doesn't confirm or deny outright that he was involved or knew about it. It says he lied about a bounty program. That's up to interpretation. To me it says that he knew a bounty system existed and covered up for his coaches in hopes of a promotion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="packa7x, post: 446255, member: 6594"] Jay, I feel like we agree more than we think. I apologize if I came off a bit confrontational, you're much more levelheaded than others I have had this conversation with. I'm not arguing the NFLPA shouldn't be asking for more. They should be. It's their job to exercise every option in order to protect its constituents. I just think we should stop and think about why the NFL would fabricate or exaggerate a story like this and what they'd stand to gain by this compared to why the NFLPA would lie or try to muddy the waters. It's pretty likely that the union is lying, bending the truth, being intentionally deceitful, etc. I truly don't think the focus on bounties comes ftom head injuries. I'm a sports management major at Rutgers University and I've done research on head injuries in football and have even sent proposals to the NJSIAA about ways to reduce concussions in football. The new awareness on head injuries fascinates me. I played 4 years in high school and suffered 3 concussions. Honestly, there's no relationship between the two. Goodell wants to stop bounties because it's bad for the image and the competitive nature of the sport. The NFLPA is winning support for their cause. Go to any forum or football site with commenters and you'll see it's about 50/50. Half believe the NFL is truthful, the other half do not. Some people are natural skeptics and the NFLPA is giving them enough doubt to make them believe the NFL is lying. If you're a capable NFL athlete, you'll latch on. Do you know why a Babe Ruth card with no autograph, bent corners, a crease, and discoloration sells for ten times what a Joe Montana autographed card does? Because it's rare. People with that size/speed combo are rare. There would be a place for him. If guys like Randy Moss and Pacman Jones aren't blacklisted, Hargrove wouldn't be either. As for White, I'm sure she saw other evidence too. I understand she's paid by the NFL, but she wouldn't publicly affirm the NFL without being sure that there's at least a good chance of it standing up. Reading the actual Hargrove document, it predictably falls between where the NFL and Hargrove says it is. It doesn't confirm or deny outright that he was involved or knew about it. It says he lied about a bounty program. That's up to interpretation. To me it says that he knew a bounty system existed and covered up for his coaches in hopes of a promotion. [/QUOTE]
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