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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1011724" data-attributes="member: 17987">Yeah, I think that's fair enough. I'm not calling to fire LaFleur just yet as I can't say with much confidence that he's the one who should be bearing the majority of the blame.I don't know how much personnel decision-making latitude is afforded to LaFleur, though if I'm remembering correctly it was widely reported that Barry was the guy (or one of them) that MLF specifically campaigned to hire. While LaFleur might not be able to ultimately make the decision to hire/fire Barry, I'm absolutely confident that if he had told Gute/Murphy that he absolutely did not want them to hire Barry (as he should have), they wouldn't have gone ahead and hired Barry against MLF's wishes. And I'm absolutely confident that if LaFleur went to Gute/Murphy at the end of the season/this offseason and told them he didn't want Barry back as DC (as he should have), they wouldn't tell him to suck it up and deal with it. And if LaFleur went to them at any point between now and the end of the season (as he likely should) and made it clear he wasn't going to continue working with Barry as his DC, I'm pretty sure they'd find a new one (an interim appointment, if nothing else). Gute and Murphy have more or less hitched their wagons to Love and LaFleur. Barry is insignificant in that regard big-picture. LaFleur might not hire him or make the call to fire him but I'm pretty sure he'd have a big say in whether he stays or goes, one way or another. (See also: Drayton, Maurice)But that's a bit of an aside. Anyways, the bigger-picture issue for me is that right now it seems like there are (valid) questions being asked of all three of LaFleur, Love, and Gute, and IMO at least one of them is going to have to bear the lion's share of responsibility and accordingly be held accountable for that. I think the short of it is basically this: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If the coaching (LaFleur) is good enough and the team-construction (Gute) is good enough, then the problem is the QB (Love)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If the coaching (LaFleur) is good enough and the QB (Love) is good enough, then the problem is our team-construction (Gute)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">and if the team-construction (Gute) and QB (Love) is good enough, then the problem is coaching (LaFleur)</li> </ul>I don't know with 100% certainty which of those it is yet, maybe some combination of all three, but there is simply no way that I can look at this season and say Yep - Gute made the right call to draft Love and he's done well in drafting and surrounding him with talent to put him in the best position to succeed AND LaFleur's doing a great job at setting up his players for the best chance of success, is getting the most out of the talent at his disposal and is doing a good job in developing Love at quarterback AND that Love is progressing nicely and showing promise and developing right on track and just needs more time/more experienced players around him. All three cannot be the case. Like I said, I don't know which one of those bears the majority of blame at the moment but it seems like many are more or less suggesting that everything's fine and going about as expected and we just need to have faith and stay the course and if you expected any better than this then you're just spoiled and impatient and whatnot and I just think that's kind of ridiculous lol</blockquote>

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