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<blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1080716" data-attributes="member: 17987"><p>Because I am a psycho, I went back and looked at the logs for every play we've ran this season.</p><p></p><p>Here are all of our runs out of shotgun (Note that I am not including jet sweeps as they are often classified as a passing play. Also not including Love scrambles from shotgun as it's not a designed run typically):</p><p></p><p>DETROIT:</p><p>Jacobs for no gain</p><p>Jacobs for no gain (direct snap)</p><p>Jacobs for 6 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for -1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 10 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 15 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 6 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p></p><p>TOTAL: 10 shotgun rushes for 48 yards (4.8 ypc)</p><p></p><p>WASHINGTON:</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 9 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>S. Williams for 8 yards (end-around, this one WAS a handoff)</p><p>Jacobs for 8 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 9 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>S. Williams for 16 yards (direct snap)</p><p>Jacobs for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 10 yards</p><p></p><p>Total: 16 shotgun rushes for 85 yards (5.3 ypc)</p><p></p><p>CLEVELAND:</p><p>Jacobs for no gain</p><p>S. Williams for 2 yards (direct snap)</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>Wilson for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>S. Williams for -3 yards (direct snap)</p><p>Wilson for 4 yards</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Wilson for 9 yards</p><p>Wilson for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for no gain</p><p>Golden for 2 yards (end-around handoff)</p><p></p><p>Total: 13 shotgun rushes for 30 yards (2.3 ypc)</p><p></p><p>DALLAS:</p><p>Jacobs for -3 yards</p><p>Wilson for 5 yards</p><p>Wilson for 1 yard</p><p>S. Williams for 1 yard (end-around handoff)</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for no gain</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 14 yards</p><p>Jacobs for -3 yards</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>Wilson for 9 yards</p><p>Wilson for 13 yards</p><p>Wilson for 7 yards</p><p></p><p>Total: 19 shotgun rushes for 72 yards (3.8 ypc)</p><p></p><p>CINCINNATI:</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 7 yards</p><p>Brooks for 1 yard</p><p>S. Williams for 3 yards (end-around handoff)</p><p>Wilson for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>Jacobs for no gain</p><p>Jacobs for no gain</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards, TD</p><p>Jacobs for 12 yards</p><p>Melton for 3 yards (end-around handoff)</p><p>Jacobs for 11 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards</p><p></p><p>Total: 15 shotgun rushes for 58 yards and 1 TD (3.9 ypc)</p><p></p><p>ARIZONA:</p><p>Wilson for -1 yard</p><p>Wilson for -1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 10 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 7 yards, TD</p><p>Wilson for 1 yard</p><p>Wilson for 4 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 8 yards</p><p></p><p>Total: 10 shotgun rushes for 42 yards and 1 TD (4.2 ypc)</p><p></p><p>PITTSBURGH:</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>S. Williams for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 6 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards, TD</p><p></p><p>Total: 10 shotgun rushes for 29 yards and 1 TD (2.9 ypc)</p><p></p><p>CAROLINA:</p><p>Wilson for 7 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 8 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 3 yards (negated by holding. Going to calculate as just 0 yards rather than the actual yardage lost)</p><p>Jacobs for 6 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 15 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 7 yards</p><p>Wilson for 2 yards</p><p>Wilson for 5 yards</p><p>Wilson for 4 yards</p><p></p><p>Total: 11 shotgun rushes for 58 yards (5.3 ypc)</p><p></p><p>PHILADELPHIA:</p><p>Jacobs for 4 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 1 yard</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>Jacobs for -1 yard</p><p>Wilson for 2 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 5 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 11 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 8 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 6 yards, TD</p><p>Jacobs for -4 yards</p><p></p><p>Total: 11 shotgun rushes for 39 yards and 1 TD (3.5 ypc)</p><p></p><p>NYG</p><p>Jacobs for 7 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 15 yards</p><p>Jacobs for 2 yards</p><p>Melton for 17 yards (end-around handoff)</p><p>Brooks for 8 yards</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Wilson for 2 yards</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Wilson for 15 yards (negated by penalty, again we'll call it 0)</p><p></p><p>Total: 9 shotgun rushes for 57 yards (6.3 ypc)</p><p></p><p>MINNESOTA</p><p>Wilson for no gain</p><p>Wilson for 4 yards</p><p>Wilson for 7 yards</p><p>Wilson for 4 yards</p><p>Wilson for 10 yards</p><p>Wilson for no gain</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Wilson for -1 yard</p><p>Brooks for -4 yards</p><p>Brooks for 5 yards</p><p>S. Williams for no gain</p><p>Wilson for -2 yards</p><p>Wilson for 12 yards</p><p>Wilson for 8 yards</p><p>Wilson for 3 yards</p><p>Brooks for 4 yards</p><p>Wilson for -1 yard</p><p>Wilson for no gain</p><p>Wilson for 1 yard</p><p>Brooks for 10 yards</p><p></p><p>Total: 20 rushes for 63 yards (3.15 ypc)</p><p></p><p>Now admittedly I am just a humble guy wasting time at his desk job, I'm not here to offer any particularly advanced analysis at this point. As you can see, it is actually generally a "positive" play, albeit rarely an "explosive" one. That is not to say it is wholly useless, but a few interesting considerations that come to mind...I'm not gonna look all of these up at this time, but food for thought:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Overall, how does our success rate compare between running out of shotgun vs running from under center?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">What is the average EPA for shotgun runs in a given game? How do they compare to an under-center run or a pass? Worth keeping in mind that a play can be a "plus" play in terms of yards while also not really contributing much to your overall success.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">What does the overall "drive contribution" look like? Of course one play (or two, or whatever) does not define a drive, but I do think we find that certain plays or approaches are more likely to generate a scoring drive than others.</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magooch, post: 1080716, member: 17987"] Because I am a psycho, I went back and looked at the logs for every play we've ran this season. Here are all of our runs out of shotgun (Note that I am not including jet sweeps as they are often classified as a passing play. Also not including Love scrambles from shotgun as it's not a designed run typically): DETROIT: Jacobs for no gain Jacobs for no gain (direct snap) Jacobs for 6 yards Jacobs for 3 yards Jacobs for -1 yard Jacobs for 10 yards Jacobs for 4 yards Jacobs for 15 yards Jacobs for 6 yards Jacobs for 5 yards TOTAL: 10 shotgun rushes for 48 yards (4.8 ypc) WASHINGTON: Jacobs for 3 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 9 yards Jacobs for 3 yards Jacobs for 5 yards S. Williams for 8 yards (end-around, this one WAS a handoff) Jacobs for 8 yards Jacobs for 9 yards Jacobs for 3 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 4 yards S. Williams for 16 yards (direct snap) Jacobs for 2 yards Jacobs for 2 yards Jacobs for 10 yards Total: 16 shotgun rushes for 85 yards (5.3 ypc) CLEVELAND: Jacobs for no gain S. Williams for 2 yards (direct snap) Jacobs for 4 yards Wilson for 2 yards Jacobs for 4 yards S. Williams for -3 yards (direct snap) Wilson for 4 yards Wilson for 3 yards Wilson for 9 yards Wilson for 2 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for no gain Golden for 2 yards (end-around handoff) Total: 13 shotgun rushes for 30 yards (2.3 ypc) DALLAS: Jacobs for -3 yards Wilson for 5 yards Wilson for 1 yard S. Williams for 1 yard (end-around handoff) Jacobs for 5 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 5 yards Wilson for 3 yards Jacobs for 3 yards Jacobs for no gain Wilson for 3 yards Jacobs for 14 yards Jacobs for -3 yards Wilson for 3 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 4 yards Wilson for 9 yards Wilson for 13 yards Wilson for 7 yards Total: 19 shotgun rushes for 72 yards (3.8 ypc) CINCINNATI: Wilson for 3 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 7 yards Brooks for 1 yard S. Williams for 3 yards (end-around handoff) Wilson for 2 yards Jacobs for 4 yards Jacobs for no gain Jacobs for no gain Jacobs for 3 yards, TD Jacobs for 12 yards Melton for 3 yards (end-around handoff) Jacobs for 11 yards Jacobs for 5 yards Jacobs for 3 yards Total: 15 shotgun rushes for 58 yards and 1 TD (3.9 ypc) ARIZONA: Wilson for -1 yard Wilson for -1 yard Jacobs for 10 yards Jacobs for 7 yards, TD Wilson for 1 yard Wilson for 4 yards Jacobs for 5 yards Jacobs for 4 yards Jacobs for 5 yards Jacobs for 8 yards Total: 10 shotgun rushes for 42 yards and 1 TD (4.2 ypc) PITTSBURGH: Jacobs for 4 yards Jacobs for 5 yards S. Williams for 1 yard Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 3 yards Jacobs for 6 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 4 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 3 yards, TD Total: 10 shotgun rushes for 29 yards and 1 TD (2.9 ypc) CAROLINA: Wilson for 7 yards Jacobs for 8 yards Jacobs for 2 yards Jacobs for 2 yards Jacobs for 3 yards (negated by holding. Going to calculate as just 0 yards rather than the actual yardage lost) Jacobs for 6 yards Jacobs for 15 yards Jacobs for 7 yards Wilson for 2 yards Wilson for 5 yards Wilson for 4 yards Total: 11 shotgun rushes for 58 yards (5.3 ypc) PHILADELPHIA: Jacobs for 4 yards Jacobs for 2 yards Jacobs for 1 yard Jacobs for 5 yards Jacobs for -1 yard Wilson for 2 yards Jacobs for 5 yards Jacobs for 11 yards Jacobs for 8 yards Jacobs for 6 yards, TD Jacobs for -4 yards Total: 11 shotgun rushes for 39 yards and 1 TD (3.5 ypc) NYG Jacobs for 7 yards Jacobs for 15 yards Jacobs for 2 yards Melton for 17 yards (end-around handoff) Brooks for 8 yards Wilson for 3 yards Wilson for 2 yards Wilson for 3 yards Wilson for 15 yards (negated by penalty, again we'll call it 0) Total: 9 shotgun rushes for 57 yards (6.3 ypc) MINNESOTA Wilson for no gain Wilson for 4 yards Wilson for 7 yards Wilson for 4 yards Wilson for 10 yards Wilson for no gain Wilson for 3 yards Wilson for -1 yard Brooks for -4 yards Brooks for 5 yards S. Williams for no gain Wilson for -2 yards Wilson for 12 yards Wilson for 8 yards Wilson for 3 yards Brooks for 4 yards Wilson for -1 yard Wilson for no gain Wilson for 1 yard Brooks for 10 yards Total: 20 rushes for 63 yards (3.15 ypc) Now admittedly I am just a humble guy wasting time at his desk job, I'm not here to offer any particularly advanced analysis at this point. As you can see, it is actually generally a "positive" play, albeit rarely an "explosive" one. That is not to say it is wholly useless, but a few interesting considerations that come to mind...I'm not gonna look all of these up at this time, but food for thought: [LIST=1] [*]Overall, how does our success rate compare between running out of shotgun vs running from under center? [*]What is the average EPA for shotgun runs in a given game? How do they compare to an under-center run or a pass? Worth keeping in mind that a play can be a "plus" play in terms of yards while also not really contributing much to your overall success. [*]What does the overall "drive contribution" look like? Of course one play (or two, or whatever) does not define a drive, but I do think we find that certain plays or approaches are more likely to generate a scoring drive than others. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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