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Vikes acquire Jared Allen

Discussion in 'All Other Team Discussions' started by bozz_2006, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. Vikeman

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    Please understand that the Vikings are in win now mode. With the need for a new stadium. Wilf has done more for this team then any owner in the history of the Vikings. Like I said our cap will be fine...and we gave no future picks up.
     
  2. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    100% agreed.. with Pat Williams closer to the end and the online about peaked (excluding RT) .. time to strike now.
     
  3. NodakPaul

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    I agree it is being done to force the legislature's hand... but the chances of them moving are still relatively slim.

    It isn't "Pay up or we will move somewhere that will" like it was in the Red McCombs days. Zygi is doing this to prove to the legislatures that there is no way he can field a competitive team given the revenue stream from the Metrodome. He is showing them that the Metrodump is NOT a viable place to play, and a new stadium is needed.

    Look at it from Zygi's point of view. Why on earth would they invest an extra $50 million to date in the Vikings if they didn't expect to get that money back? And what is the easiest way for them to get their money back? By getting a new stadium - and then investing in the subsequent development spurred by it.

    Wilf made his money off from real estate development, and he has made it clear that he wants a large chunk of the development rights around the new stadium. If Wilf moves to another venue, such as LA, where another private investor already has stake in the development, then they will not earn the money back as quickly. If he was going to move, it would be to a venue where the community would help pay for a stadium and he could reap development rights. Right now there are no other venues that present a better chance of getting that done than Minnesota.
     
  4. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    Maybe I am trying to connect too many dots.. but.. LA announces that they are building a new stadium without a football team to fill it currently. Just announced last week.. with no team, that means the city (and probably the NFL behind the scenes) is footing the bill at the moment. No obligation from a franchise or ownership group up front.

    Then the eternal (at least it seems like it) issue to get a new stadium built in the cities.. how many years is it going on?

    Add to your above point on the lack of revenue currently, and it seems like Zigi and company have the leverage in their corner. Building a championship caliber team isn't hurting them on either side.. staying in MN or pulling up stakes and moving to say hmm LA.

    Again.. I agree the chances are remote because the TC and MN would be foolish to let the revenue machine that is the Vikings, a piece of the NFL leave their state.

    I just think the capital leveraging is making the situation a bit more dicey for the fans of the franchise. By the way, whom have very little control individually on whether the stadium is built or not.
     
  5. Marrdro

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    I could.

    You two spewing that drivel over herr as well? I guess no one listens to you on the other site so you feel it will fly over here. :D

    Consistency at the HC position is what will get it done. The Chiller isn't going anywere this year or the next for that matter.

    By the way, we went 8-4 last year with TJ behind a OL that could run block but struggled pass blocking and a few recievers who couldn't hang onto the ball.

    Watch what this year brings.
     
  6. trippster

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    The Viking situation reminds me of Cleveland before they went to Baltimore. Cleveland owner got a nice cash bonus to move....could that be how the viking owners plan on getting their return?
     
  7. bozz_2006

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    oh boy, you got me there. I was hoping you wouldn't realize I have no knowledge.
     
  8. tromadz

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    I remember hearing how great the Vikings were gonna be the other year when they got that overpaid Olineman who wasn't close to living up to his contract.

    Gotta overpay on both sides of the line, I guess.
     
  9. PackOne

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    We played him. We shut him down.
     
  10. Schutz

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    Jeeze Mar, even valiantly defending Chilly Dawg over on a Packers forum.
     
  11. Zeus

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    Flashbacks from your days at Haight-Ashbury?

    =Z=
     
  12. Zeus

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    I'm here on PF.com to educate, so I'll start here.

    With the possibility of an uncapped year in 2010, signing one of the top-5 DEs in the NFL to a large contract prior to that is not necessarily a big price, since with no cap, who knows what the market will bring when lead by such fiscally responsible men as Jerry Jones and Danny Snyder.

    The Minnesota Vikings have the PREMIERE capologist in the NFL working for them. I would think the annual dumping of cash into their coffers above the cap limit would have taught Packerland by now that there is a genius at work in Winter Park. And - now that the opportunity has been given to cash in on that genius and bring in a big-time player, they have the space and flexibility to do it.

    I would think Packer fans would understand the impact that bringing in a big-time pass-rusher in the prime of his career can have on a building franchise.

    =Z=
     
  13. Zeus

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    Are you talking about Hutchinson? Pretty sure that the Vikings run offense has vaulted into the elite of the NFL since his arrival - while the Seahawks' has sunk.

    And that "overpaid" contract he signed is now a bargain, because idiots like Jerry Jones give that kind of money to mediocre fools like Leonard Davis.

    =Z=
     
  14. bozz_2006

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    I think all new pf.com members who are Vikings fans need to write everybody a PM declaring themselves... you know, like a pederast.

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    8 year-olds, Dude.
     
  15. tromadz

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    Nah, flashbacks from last year.
     
  16. Zeus

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    I don't see Jared Allen lining up next to two Pro Bowl DTs in that game log. Do you?

    =Z=
     
  17. Zeus

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    I won't be PMing anyone on this site. Too much chance of catching something that penicillin doesn't kill.

    =Z=
     
  18. tromadz

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    lol, I love this guy.

    Tick tock, my doppleganger pal. Enjoy the 5 months of hope, but the regular season is going to come eventually.
     
  19. longtimefan

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    Eh?

    Ranked 16th is your definition of ELITE?

    The ONLY reason you can be considered elite now is the one and only AP
     
  20. tromadz

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    Don't forget about Tavaris "Action" Jackson.
     
  21. Zeus

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    LOL - nice use of selective statistics to prove your point.

    I counter with:
    27th in 2005 - pre-Hutch
    16th in 2006
    1st in 2007

    =Z=
     
  22. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Nahhh

    but HERE is your 2 pro bowlers in a loss of 34-0..not to mention 1st single player that season rushing for over 100 yards on those guys...
     
  23. Zeus

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    I'd rather have a QB who has actually played in the NFL than a draft-dropping bench-warmer who has barely dipped his toe into non-exhibition competition.

    =Z=
     
  24. Zeus

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    Is that your thing? Linking to NFL.Com to support your points? I'll keep note of it. Shall I link to the Packers choking it up against the Bears at the end of last season to make a specious point that has no bearing on the upcoming season?

    =Z=
     
  25. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    Exactly the type of action Zeus wandered over for.. straight debate.

    :pop:

    Just hope it stays civil on both sides.
     

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