1. Welcome to Green Bay Packers NFL Football Forum & Community!
    Packer Forum is one of the largest online communities for the Green Bay Packers.

    You are currently viewing our community forums as a guest user.

    Sign Up or

    Having an account grants you additional privileges, such as creating and participating in discussions. Furthermore, we hide most of the ads once you register as a member!
    Dismiss Notice

Veteran safety Vincent gets wish, released by Bills

Discussion in 'All Other Team Discussions' started by PackerLegend, Oct 12, 2006.

  1. PackerLegend

    PackerLegend Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    1,947
    Ratings:
    +0
    Troy Vincent got his wish Thursday when the Buffalo Bills released the veteran defensive back.

    The 15-year NFL veteran said he's fully recovered from a left hamstring injury that led the team to place him on injured reserve four weeks ago.

    Vincent is prepared to seek offers from another team.

    "I'm ready to go," the 35-year-old Vincent said. "To be fair, it was the right time for me. ... Now's the time for me to look at where I'm at. And I still want to play some football."

    While Vincent said he enjoyed his two-plus seasons in Buffalo, he's not pleased with how the team handled him after he was hurt in the season-opening loss at New England. Citing their depleted depth at safety, the Bills placed Vincent on IR even though his injury was considered relatively minor.

    Vincent, who has three years left on his contract beyond this season, believes the move was a way for the team to cut him by taking the unusual step of placing him on what's known as IR-minor.

    While the designation means Vincent is guaranteed his $2.6 million salary this season, it also allows the team to release the player once he's healthy.

    "That was a front-office decision and you live with it," Vincent said. "When they put me on IR-minor, it's clear that's a decision they made that tells me they don't want you around. ... You don't want to be in a place where you're not wanted."

    Vincent was surprised by the move, particularly after he made the season-opening roster and after he initially hurt his hamstring in training camp.

    A four-time Pro Bowl selection, Vincent is coming off a strong season in which he made a career-high 102 tackles and led the Bills with four interceptions in 16 starts. He entered this season with 47 interceptions, most among active players.

    He's one game short of appearing in his 200th career game. Miami's first-round pick in the 1992 draft, he played four seasons with the Dolphins before signing with Philadelphia as a free agent in 1996.

    Vincent played the next eight seasons with the Eagles before signing with the Bills as a free agent in 2004. After spending his first 12 seasons as a cornerback, Vincent made the switch to free safety in his first season with Buffalo following the emergence of CB Terrence McGee.

    Vincent was also re-elected last spring as the NFL Players Association president.
     
  2. Cdnfavrefan

    Cdnfavrefan Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Messages:
    1,624
    Ratings:
    +0
    Maybe he's not what he used to be but 3 years ago I would of loved to have him. Also I do believe he's a former Badger which makes him fit in GB even better.
     
  3. trippster

    trippster Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,405
    Ratings:
    +2
    I would rather have him than Manuel at this point.
     
  4. kmac

    kmac Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2006
    Messages:
    849
    Ratings:
    +0
    I wouldn't mind seeing TT take the chance, but if he doesn't, it's obviously for a good reason.
     
  5. pack_in_black

    pack_in_black Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    1,876
    Ratings:
    +0
    I think we should bring him in. I think he would be an improvment on Manuel, even if he (Vincent) played with a completely torn hammy. :D

    But really, he's a veteran with proven leadership skills (spokesman for the NFLPA) and is likely smart enough, (even if he has lost a step with age) to not kill us on D. I think it's exactly what we need
     
  6. rabidgopher04

    rabidgopher04 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2005
    Messages:
    1,467
    Ratings:
    +0
    If anything Manuel could learn from him and use it next season or after that if he shows improvement. Or even guys like Underwood could benefit too even though he is injured.
     
  7. gopackgo

    gopackgo Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2006
    Messages:
    730
    Ratings:
    +0
    If he doesn't want to play for the Bills, I got a feeling Green Bay isn't on the top of his list.
     
  8. 4packgirl

    4packgirl Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2005
    Messages:
    2,415
    Ratings:
    +0
    my thoughts exactly. i am curious why the bills didn't want him anymore though. :-?
     
  9. packerfanfourever

    packerfanfourever Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2005
    Messages:
    82
    Ratings:
    +0
    I hope we take a look at Vincent, he is I think just what we need back their right know. Even just this year to plug up the problem at saftey.
     
  10. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2005
    Messages:
    16,769
    Ratings:
    +2,994
    didnt really find an answer other then he might be to old and cost to much and was hurt..they put him on the ir after 1st game of the year..But he is now ready to play and was schocked they placed him on the ir for a "minor injury"
     
  11. trippster

    trippster Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,405
    Ratings:
    +2
    If I recall, when he was originally put on the disabled list it was rumored that it had something to do with him being president of the union.
     
  12. pack_in_black

    pack_in_black Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    1,876
    Ratings:
    +0
    here's my guess:

    The Bills were the consesnus pick for worst draft, at least day 1. They reached for a decent safety in rnd 1, then reached for another later. Then, when Vincent was placed on IR, it looked like a much better draft, because they ended up in need of talented depth @ safety. His placement on IR was only for PR

    Being a talented veteran, I'm sure he took this as disrespect, (which it was) and wanted out. I don't think his wanting out had a whole lot to do with the team's record, just management.
     
  13. yooperfan

    yooperfan Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    1,900
    Ratings:
    +0
    Niners hope to sign Troy Vincent
    The 49ers are hotly pursuing five-time Pro Bowl defensive back Troy Vincent, two league sources told The Press Democrat today.

    "It's safe to say the 49ers are interested, certainly interested," a source said. "But I think there will be other teams involved in it."

    Vincent, a highly respected 15-year NFL veteran whom the Bills released earlier today, is free to sign with any team. The 49ers believe there will be competition for his services. They are prepared to offer Vincent a two-year contract, one source said.

    The 49ers are $7.523 million under the salary cap, giving the organization plenty of room to work out a deal for Vincent.

    Vincent, 35, who was placed on injured reserve-minor on Sept. 13, is recovered from a left hamstring strain, said his agent, Linda Bodley. After the Bills placed him on IR, he could not return to play for them this season. He requested his release this week because he had become healthy enough to play.

    "He's not a rookie, so it's not like he's going to play 10 more years," Bodley said. "He wants to know exactly what his role would be with his new team. He hasn't ruled anything out."

    The 49ers view Vincent as a free safety who can help the team's nickel defense. The 49ers' pass defense is ranked 25th in the league, yielding an average of 224.0 yards a game. Last week, the Raiders, who entered the game averaging just 70.3 yards passing a game, rolled up 216 passing yards on the 49ers.

    Vincent would be an acquisition along the lines of guard Larry Allen and cornerback Walt Harris. The 49ers pounced on those veteran players in March after they were released by the Cowboys and Redskins, respectively.

    * * *

    Former 49ers WR Rashaun Woods, the club's first-round pick in the 2004 draft, had a workout this week with the Buccaneers.

    * * *

    Posted October 12, 2006 5:09:17 PMPermalink: http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/default. ... 1TrackBack URL: http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/utility/tb/?id=220601
     
  14. yooperfan

    yooperfan Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    1,900
    Ratings:
    +0
    It looks like Teddy is still sitting on his thumb.
    The Packers definitely need help/depth in their defensive backfield and could pick up valuable veteran help, yet Teddy once again does nothing.
     
  15. trippster

    trippster Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,405
    Ratings:
    +2
    just because you havent read it doesn't mean he isnt active
     
  16. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2005
    Messages:
    16,769
    Ratings:
    +2,994
    Exactly, recall the Lavar Arington thing?

    People were upset TT wasnt doing anything, then to come to find out a week b4 he was in GB they were talking to him on the phone..

    But EVERYONE knew TT was sitting on his thumbs
     
  17. PackerLegend

    PackerLegend Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    1,947
    Ratings:
    +0
    Vincent is 35 and we are pretty much rebuilding so it doesnt make a lot of sense to bring him in since we want young players
     
  18. yooperfan

    yooperfan Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    1,900
    Ratings:
    +0
    It stands to reason that if San Frans interest in Vincent is made public, that any interest that Green Bay has would also be made public.
    I think teddy would have alot more credibility with fans if he would acknowlege any interest or disinterest that the Packers might have in a potential significant player like Vincent and why.

    I call Vincent a significant player because the Packers are lacking depth and need help in the secondary and there aren't really any other players with Vincents resume available.
     
  19. PackFanInSC

    PackFanInSC Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2006
    Messages:
    563
    Ratings:
    +0
  20. PackerLegend

    PackerLegend Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    1,947
    Ratings:
    +0
    Why do they need Vincent they already have Taylor and Archuleta. They need to learn that you cant buy your team!! They have spent alot in free agency and it has got them to 2-4.
     
  21. PackFanInSC

    PackFanInSC Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2006
    Messages:
    563
    Ratings:
    +0

    They need him because Archuleta cannot defend against the pass (sound familiar?). They rank next to last -- right before GB -- in giving up explosive passes.
     

Share This Page