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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1095534" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>Someone asked me to expand upon the other post and just list all of the biggest disagreements I have...and some other things (suspect they question if I actually build a board). So here are, at least currently, from my top 150 big board vs the consensus big board any player disagreement of greater than 10 slots either up or down:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]22521[/ATTACH]</p><p>*Yes since writing that one thread the other day of offering up 5 guys I've refined my big board more and a few guys slid up or down just slightly from that group of 5.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Few of the biggest:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>QBs</strong>...I hate this class personally. Love Mendoza the man, think he's going to be potentially an elite Alex Smith or high level Tannehill level guy but I don't see this bet all my chips on QB in him...and no one else excites me at all.</p><p></p><p><strong>Aamil Wagner OT from Notre Dame</strong> is the biggest swing in slot differences with me having him 79 higher than consensus. I see Wagner as an excellent early Day 3 guy that I think could come in and play RT for a team if needed, but has the athleticism and strength to slide into a guard position as well if needed. Drafting him could provide your swing tackle OR your reserve guard if we decided to slide Belton out to tackle if ever the need presented. I see Wagner as a starter in the league during his rookie contract unless he gets stuck behind just some stud of a OL and simply cannot break through. </p><p></p><p><strong>Eli Stowers TE from Vandy</strong> - honestly he might still be ranked too high for me, but he is just so dang lethal in what he does well that all the glaring holes in being a complete TE simply make it impossible for me to personally see value in him till the third. Sam Roush TE from Stanford is the exact opposite, he can be a receiving threat but also is a high high level blocking TE with football smarts and excellent athleticism to go along with it.</p><p></p><p><strong>Ephesians Pryscok CB Washington</strong> - In my mind I say he is just barely a top 100 prospect, but the math keeps him just outside it. I just think there might very well be no other CB (maybe Neal) after you get past Cisse and Johnson in the top 50 that I feel have a higher floor than Prysock. I don't envision him ever being an All-Pro and there will be times against the elite of the elite he might suffer....but then again no rookie won't...and that's only if he plays year 1. I have began coining him as the more Packer type version of Tramon Williams...little more height and weight, better speed...but clean corner coverage skills. I just envision him quietly playing 6-8 years for a team and not ever really being noticed until he's gone type.</p><p></p><p>Since DL is a spot so many are curious of...the guy I love is <strong>Kaleb Proctor</strong>...but he's not going to fill that NT niche we need, but that's fine. He is a crazy athletic pressure creator with sure hands and strong leverage that quickly makes the loss of Wooden and future of Brooks and/or Wyatt both leaving easier to deal with. No other DL that I'm in love with in the top 100...despite having 9 in my top 100: McDonald/Woods/Banks/Miller/Hunter/Orange/Proctor/Halton/Jackson Jr. If you told me in the third we draft a DL that isn't Proctor...I likely am hoping it is Halton or Jackson Jr over even Orange. Orange to me is a plugger and nothing more and that is a lot of draft capital for a guy I don't envision being an elite NT, just a good one.</p><p></p><p>No other prospect has made me want to love them more than <strong>D'Angelo Ponds</strong>...he is the CB version of the Honey Badger and I pray he succeeds because everything about him from his athleticism to his smarts to his technique is great...issue is the dude is not just a size outlier he is the extreme of the extreme outlier. If he was 5'11' he'd be a Day1 no doubt...if he was 6'1' he'd be a top 10 guy. Fact is it's just too much for me to hold him as high as many do. Now that said...if he is somehow there when we pick in the third and we didn't go DB with our first pick....he still would be insanely hard not to pick....</p><p></p><p>Possibly my favorite offensive lineman in this draft is <strong>Brian Parker</strong> <strong>from Duke</strong>...tons of tackle experience but also center work too - such a pivotal and timely thing for GB to bring in. The athleticism and length to have played tackle in the ACC but the smarts and ability to slide inside and put excellent center film down is just incredible. If you told me you can leave the draft with just one offensive lineman, Parker is my pick because he's likely going to take your third or your fourth, but will offer immense upside and depth or a guy that I think could handle starting week1 if needed - immense value relative to the pick used to take him. His proven versatility is why I pick him over Wagner (mentioned above) because while I suspect Wagner can (watched him a TON being local to ND) - it isn't proven like it is with Parker.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Carson Beck is likely higher than he should be but, in truth I see him as one of the highest floor QBs in this draft and a team could build an elite squad around him and win likely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1095534, member: 6578"] Someone asked me to expand upon the other post and just list all of the biggest disagreements I have...and some other things (suspect they question if I actually build a board). So here are, at least currently, from my top 150 big board vs the consensus big board any player disagreement of greater than 10 slots either up or down: [ATTACH type="full"]22521[/ATTACH] *Yes since writing that one thread the other day of offering up 5 guys I've refined my big board more and a few guys slid up or down just slightly from that group of 5. [B]Few of the biggest: QBs[/B]...I hate this class personally. Love Mendoza the man, think he's going to be potentially an elite Alex Smith or high level Tannehill level guy but I don't see this bet all my chips on QB in him...and no one else excites me at all. [B]Aamil Wagner OT from Notre Dame[/B] is the biggest swing in slot differences with me having him 79 higher than consensus. I see Wagner as an excellent early Day 3 guy that I think could come in and play RT for a team if needed, but has the athleticism and strength to slide into a guard position as well if needed. Drafting him could provide your swing tackle OR your reserve guard if we decided to slide Belton out to tackle if ever the need presented. I see Wagner as a starter in the league during his rookie contract unless he gets stuck behind just some stud of a OL and simply cannot break through. [B]Eli Stowers TE from Vandy[/B] - honestly he might still be ranked too high for me, but he is just so dang lethal in what he does well that all the glaring holes in being a complete TE simply make it impossible for me to personally see value in him till the third. Sam Roush TE from Stanford is the exact opposite, he can be a receiving threat but also is a high high level blocking TE with football smarts and excellent athleticism to go along with it. [B]Ephesians Pryscok CB Washington[/B] - In my mind I say he is just barely a top 100 prospect, but the math keeps him just outside it. I just think there might very well be no other CB (maybe Neal) after you get past Cisse and Johnson in the top 50 that I feel have a higher floor than Prysock. I don't envision him ever being an All-Pro and there will be times against the elite of the elite he might suffer....but then again no rookie won't...and that's only if he plays year 1. I have began coining him as the more Packer type version of Tramon Williams...little more height and weight, better speed...but clean corner coverage skills. I just envision him quietly playing 6-8 years for a team and not ever really being noticed until he's gone type. Since DL is a spot so many are curious of...the guy I love is [B]Kaleb Proctor[/B]...but he's not going to fill that NT niche we need, but that's fine. He is a crazy athletic pressure creator with sure hands and strong leverage that quickly makes the loss of Wooden and future of Brooks and/or Wyatt both leaving easier to deal with. No other DL that I'm in love with in the top 100...despite having 9 in my top 100: McDonald/Woods/Banks/Miller/Hunter/Orange/Proctor/Halton/Jackson Jr. If you told me in the third we draft a DL that isn't Proctor...I likely am hoping it is Halton or Jackson Jr over even Orange. Orange to me is a plugger and nothing more and that is a lot of draft capital for a guy I don't envision being an elite NT, just a good one. No other prospect has made me want to love them more than [B]D'Angelo Ponds[/B]...he is the CB version of the Honey Badger and I pray he succeeds because everything about him from his athleticism to his smarts to his technique is great...issue is the dude is not just a size outlier he is the extreme of the extreme outlier. If he was 5'11' he'd be a Day1 no doubt...if he was 6'1' he'd be a top 10 guy. Fact is it's just too much for me to hold him as high as many do. Now that said...if he is somehow there when we pick in the third and we didn't go DB with our first pick....he still would be insanely hard not to pick.... Possibly my favorite offensive lineman in this draft is [B]Brian Parker[/B] [B]from Duke[/B]...tons of tackle experience but also center work too - such a pivotal and timely thing for GB to bring in. The athleticism and length to have played tackle in the ACC but the smarts and ability to slide inside and put excellent center film down is just incredible. If you told me you can leave the draft with just one offensive lineman, Parker is my pick because he's likely going to take your third or your fourth, but will offer immense upside and depth or a guy that I think could handle starting week1 if needed - immense value relative to the pick used to take him. His proven versatility is why I pick him over Wagner (mentioned above) because while I suspect Wagner can (watched him a TON being local to ND) - it isn't proven like it is with Parker. Carson Beck is likely higher than he should be but, in truth I see him as one of the highest floor QBs in this draft and a team could build an elite squad around him and win likely. [/QUOTE]
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