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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JBlood" data-source="post: 357534" data-attributes="member: 16">Great players make great teams that win Championships.   Most teams are a collection of solid players that play good, fundamental football.  Great teams have a few "game-changers" that make big plays to win games over and over again, which leads to Championships.   It's the Championships that make the difference between average and great teams.  If the Vikings had won 1 or 2 of the Championships they were in, how would they be regarded today?  Certainly, they had good enough teams to do so.  Same with the Bills.  Instead of being remembered as biggest losers in the Super Bowl era, they would be considered with the great teams.  And Tarkenton and Kelley would be mentioned with Starr, Marino, and the rest of the multiple winners.  Many more players of those teams would be in the HOF. If Marino's teams had won multiple Championships, nobody would question that he was one of the greatest of all time. If you feel it's ridiculous to assume the 49ers would have won with Young,  isn't it just as ridiculous to assume that Marino would have won with the Cowboys? BTW,  Favre averaged 1.5 turnovers per playoff game he played in (30 interceptions, 6 fumbles lost).  That is an astounding statistic that alone removes him from my list.</blockquote>

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