Top 10 Cap Hit Players (as of right now) for 2024...

[tynimiller]

Just an exercise for review and discussion as it causes, FTR using Spotrac as some figures are slightly different depending source:

#1 - David Bakhtiari $39,994,925 ($19,65,514 Dead)
#2 - Kenny Clark $27,490,000 ($24,237,000 Dead)
#3 - Jaire Alexander $23,981,645 ($27,456,000 Dead)
#4 - Aaron Jones $17,575,823 ($17,575,823 Dead)
#5 - Preston Smith $16,507,000 ($13,988,000 Dead)
#6 - Rashan Gary $15,927,388 ($27,709,552 Dead)
#7 - Elgton Jenkins $14,402,936 ($14,400,000 Dead)
#8 - De'Vondre Campbell $14,230,532 ($11,628,000 Dead)
#9 - Jordan Love $12,757,731 ($12,530,924 Dead)
#10 - Darnell Savage $5,456,800 ($5,456,800 Dead) *NOTICE, this is the first and one of the only players you'll see on our cap hit lists that won't be here in 2024.


*Now also worth noting though, VERY big possibility that Bakh slides down to the 4th highest if we part ways in agreement and avoid injury settlement issues. De'Vondre if moved from would slide to 9th....Aaron Jones and/or Preston could slide around too some.

 

[Packer Fan in SD]

Good info, thanks.

 

[Poppa San]

In this podcast Andy Herman re-examines how to look at keep them or cut cost.
Would you sign these guys for these costs?

Campbell actual cap cost: $40m / 3 years. 2 years/ $31m; 1 yr/ $22.2m, dead cap $11.6m
Clark: 1 year $41.237m $24m dead cap. True cost is then $17m.
Jones: 1 year $23.6m $12m dead cap. True cost is 1 year $11m.
Preston: 3 years /$54m, 2 years /$40m. 1 year / $26.4m $14m dead cap
Newman: 1 yr $3m, $1m dead cap. $2.2 saved

He didn't bring up DB69. Teaser for another episode.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I saw that Bahk just got more money from the Packers, $2.05M.

I guess the millions he already got while not playing or being on the sidelines with the team, wasn't enough for him.

Former Packer David Bakhtiari receives injury protection benefit

Green Bay will be paying Bakhtiari an extra $2.05 million in 2024.

www.acmepackingcompany.com

 

[tynimiller]

I saw that Bahk just got more money from the Packers, $2.05M.

I guess the millions he already got while not playing or being on the sidelines with the team, wasn't enough for him.

Former Packer David Bakhtiari receives injury protection benefit

Green Bay will be paying Bakhtiari an extra $2.05 million in 2024.

www.acmepackingcompany.com

Everyone knew this was coming. Injury settlements and/or protection benefits as well.

Don’t hold this against him at all. Dude was our best OL in games he managed somehow to play in even after his injury.

 

[AKCheese]

Do you really expect him to turn down $2M? I mean his career is over. Pick up $2M on your way out the door … I would

 

[El Guapo]

Sheesh, owners are always trying to screw their employees! J/K

He did get injured playing for the team. It's no different than getting hurt on the job in a machine shop, except that the payouts are much higher.

 

[Poppa San]

Sheesh, owners are always trying to screw their employees! J/K

He did get injured playing for the team. It's no different than getting hurt on the job in a machine shop, except that the payouts are much higher.

Under Wisconsin Labor laws Bakh also earned state workman's comp. Though if he received settlement payout he may need to pay it back.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Everyone knew this was coming. Injury settlements and/or protection benefits as well.

Don’t hold this against him at all. Dude was our best OL in games he managed somehow to play in even after his injury.

Sheesh, owners are always trying to screw their employees! J/K

He did get injured playing for the team. It's no different than getting hurt on the job in a machine shop, except that the payouts are much higher.

Under Wisconsin Labor laws Bakh also earned state workman's comp. Though if he received settlement payout he may need to pay it back.

I knew I would take some heat for that post and probably worded it incorrectly.

Yes, Bahk was entitled to the payout, yes Bahk was a great player for the Packers and Yes, I don't really care about the money coming out of the rich "owners" coffer.

However, it is frustrating that it's more dead cap hit for the Packers and more money for a guy that was already set for life, many times over. At least the story ends and a guy that played less than a seasons worth of games after he signed his new contract in 2020 is off the books.

 

[Schultz]

Let's just hope we are not having this same discussion about Love anytime soon.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Let's just hope we are not having this same discussion about Love anytime soon.

Agree or Clark or JA or.....

I won't get into the ungodly amounts of money that is the NFL.

However, guaranteed contracts can really kill a teams cap, but that is the direction owners and players have gone. I still think it's about time that the NFL considered allowing a team to "erase" one dead cap hit a season, but only in an injury situation where said player did not play for more than 4 games (previous season). Injuries tend to balance themselves out from team to team, but when one of your highest paid players gets knocked out, it can seriously handicap a team for several seasons.

 

[El Guapo]

However, it is frustrating that it's more dead cap hit for the Packers and more money for a guy that was already set for life, many times over. At least the story ends and a guy that played less than a seasons worth of games after he signed his new contract in 2020 is off the books.

I completely agree.

 

[weeds]

I won't get into the ungodly amounts of money that is the NFL.

I remember back in the mid-90's, the branch I was managing partnered with a local grade school as a way to promote financial literacy. I had one entire class in the branch one day and this group of 4th graders as I recall, were particularly interested in where all of the money was kept.

Anyway, I happened to have a $1,000 dollar bill which hadn't been printed since the late 60's ... early 70's and asked the kids which of my hands held the most money ... the one holding the single bill or the one holding an entire pack of brand new $1 bills from the Fed ( $100 ). Not surprisingly, they all picked the pack of 100's ... except one little girl who piped up "What do you mean by "most money"" The teacher told me later on that this little girl never spoke up in class normally. This gorgeous little kid nailed me with semantics.

That story just sort of illustrates how I feel as an adult, discussing NFL salaries and the salary cap today.

 

[Voyageur]

I remember back in the mid-90's, the branch I was managing partnered with a local grade school as a way to promote financial literacy. I had one entire class in the branch one day and this group of 4th graders as I recall, were particularly interested in where all of the money was kept.

Anyway, I happened to have a $1,000 dollar bill which hadn't been printed since the late 60's ... early 70's and asked the kids which of my hands held the most money ... the one holding the single bill or the one holding an entire pack of brand new $1 bills from the Fed ( $100 ). Not surprisingly, they all picked the pack of 100's ... except one little girl who piped up "What do you mean by "most money"" The teacher told me later on that this little girl never spoke up in class normally. This gorgeous little kid nailed me with semantics.

That story just sort of illustrates how I feel as an adult, discussing NFL salaries and the salary cap today.

Kind of like Monopoly money, yet the real thing, which really bothers me. When someone says; "Only $22 mill," I ask myself what they're thinking. Do they really have any idea how many times their lifetime salary that is?

For the life of me, I cannot understand why teams put all that money out there for a player in this day and age. I think about the guys who made the game, back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, who worked jobs during the off season, to support their families. Then, today, the players begrudge putting enough money into the retirement fund to make life a little easier for those who surrendered their health to make the game better.

 

[tynimiller]

Kind of like Monopoly money, yet the real thing, which really bothers me. When someone says; "Only $22 mill," I ask myself what they're thinking. Do they really have any idea how many times their lifetime salary that is?

For the life of me, I cannot understand why teams put all that money out there for a player in this day and age. I think about the guys who made the game, back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, who worked jobs during the off season, to support their families. Then, today, the players begrudge putting enough money into the retirement fund to make life a little easier for those who surrendered their health to make the game better.

Simple, if they don’t they don’t have a place in the NFL.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Simple, if they don’t they don’t have a place in the NFL.

Nobody can debate your answer. However, I don't think people like myself are wondering how teams are staying in the NFL. We are simply appalled at what the NFL has become, in regards to money.

Anyone notice what Covid economics has done to the rest of the world? It was a mere blip for 1 season in the NFL. After that, it was back to business as usual, raise ticket prices, raise concession prices, increase broadcast rights money and of course....raise the cap and give players even more millions.

If you ask me, any business that is willing and able to guarantee an employee $40M for signing a contract and additional $219M of a $275M contract is being run pretty poorly. Especially, since each day that employee works, he is just 8 seconds away from not being able to work for a few weeks or more.

Of course, we are talking about the NFL, where money doesn't really matter, since it just keeps pouring in, no matter how poorly you run your business. When was the last time an NFL owner tanked their company, had to close up shop and declare bankruptcy?

 

[tynimiller]

Nobody can debate your answer. However, I don't think people like myself are wondering how teams are staying in the NFL. We are simply appalled at what the NFL has become, in regards to money.

Anyone notice what Covid economics has done to the rest of the world? It was a mere blip for 1 season in the NFL. After that, it was back to business as usual, raise ticket prices, raise concession prices, increase broadcast rights money and of course....raise the cap and give players even more millions.

If you ask me, any business that is willing and able to guarantee an employee $40M for signing a contract and additional $219M of a $275M contract is being run pretty poorly. Especially, since each day that employee works, he is just 8 seconds away from not being able to work for a few weeks or more.

Of course, we are talking about the NFL, where money doesn't really matter, since it just keeps pouring in, no matter how poorly you run your business. When was the last time an NFL owner tanked their company, had to close up shop and declare bankruptcy?

Any time you’re comparing business practices you must stay within the business of its competitors…you’ll never have a non-profit NFL franchise lol

Trust me it is ignorantly STUPID money!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Any time you’re comparing business practices you must stay within the business of its competitors…you’ll never have a non-profit NFL franchise lol

Trust me it is ignorantly STUPID money!

Agree.

About all you can compare the NFL with is the NBA, MLB and The NHL. At least the other 3 Professional Sports organizations have some competition for money, but it's mostly from their farm leagues, but some comes from other countries.

Of course maybe the only direct competition for NFL dollars is the NCAA, which while not really a farm league, it is a feeder league. However, now that NIL money has found its way into College Sports, we will see yet another way in which money taints fans opinions of Sports.

 

[tynimiller]

Agree.

About all you can compare the NFL with is the NBA, MLB and The NHL. At least the other 3 Professional Sports organizations have some competition for money, but it's mostly from their farm leagues, but some comes from other countries.

Of course maybe the only direct competition for NFL dollars is the NCAA, which while not really a farm league, it is a feeder league. However, now that NIL money has found its way into College Sports, we will see yet another way in which money taints fans opinions of Sports.

NIL will destroy college football especially as we know it.

 

[Voyageur]

I hear the arguments each way, and have to agree with everything said. Supply and demand dictate prices. Always has. My problem has always dealt with recognition of what a person has done to help others get where they are. It isn't just sports, it permeates everything in our society. People laud praise on those who made things happen, then when it comes to opening up their purses, to pay for the past? Nada! You're history! Not much more than dog leavings on the bottom of your best $300 sneakers.

Here's a prime example. The living Medal of Honor winners from our military. People who were willing to sacrifice their lives to protect everyone, and maintain our way of life. This is the pension they get. It sickens me. The very best, and this is it. Meanwhile, politicians retire and get unbelievable money, from just serving a short time in Washington. Something is wrong, just like it is with the NFL, and NIL.

The Medal of Honor:

In 1961, Congress raised the monthly payment from $10 to $100. The last congressional pension raise was in 2002 when the pension was raised to $1,000 per month. As of December 1, 2021, the Medal of Honor pension is set at $1,489.37 per month, without cost-of-living adjustments.

Understand, at one time, the pension was an insulting $1 per month, and it took until 1961 to go over $10 a month. Yet, here we are, worshiping football players and paying them a King's ransom.

We need to get our priorities straight. I guess I'm not a purist when it comes to the rules of supply and demand as prescribed in Adam Smith's, "Laws of supply and Demand," as it was written. From it though, we derive who we are. We just need to tweak it some, to insure that those who make it great can share in the fact that it is great, not throw them to the side like a used stick of gum, because we're looking for "new and better."