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<blockquote data-quote="ExpatPacker" data-source="post: 527545" data-attributes="member: 5535"><p>Excuse me, but this defense has stumbled around from average at best to flat out bad for 3 years now. Even when they were ranked #11 last year, they got completely run over and torched silly in some important games--Indy, Minnesota and of course, the playoffs against SF. The one playoff victory came against a Minnesota team that had the Mighty Joe Webb at QB who couldn't throw a forward pass to save his life. Your stats are misleading. In the past 5 years Capers' defenses have been:</p><p></p><p>2012: #11 PPG #11 YPG</p><p>2011: #15 PPG Dead Last YPG</p><p>2010: #2 PPG #5 YPG</p><p>2009: #2 PPF #2 YPG</p><p></p><p>2013: #23 PPG #25 YPG</p><p></p><p>A steady decline, and that's after 2 successive defense-oriented drafts. The excuses have become tiring. Maybe Capers is the most ingenious defensive mind out there, but if you can't get your players to play the scheme up to their potential, IT DOESN'T MATTER!! Particularly in the playoffs, this defense has been humiliated. The "improvement" in 2012 proved to be misleading--we beat a crippled Vikings team in the Wild Card and got absolutely blown out against SF.</p><p></p><p>I for one do blame the coaches. Not just Capers but MM, the reason being what someone else called "the sickness of denial." McCarthy is up to his neck in it, and if I may borrow a quote, it pretty much expresses my point of view:</p><p></p><p>"Every word out of MM’s mouth are words of denial. If you keep telling yourself everything is going to be OK, you start to believe it.</p><p></p><p>But football is a game of performance and action, not words. The Packers defense has been sub-par for two seasons now (I would actually say three, but to be fair…). The Packer organization must start facing up to the facts (and stats) for they don’t lie – people lie (or deny), facts and stats do not. The Packer organization is going to have to do some real soul-searching if they are going to be a contender with its current leadership. I respect the Packers as a team and as an organization, and their views on loyalty, but loyalty with no performance does not win games."</p><p></p><p>Actually facts and stats do lie, but in this case I think that the #11 defense last year was the big lie. In other words, MM never ever acknowledged the existence of a deeper problem...it's never the coaches, never something systemic. It's always bad tackling, getting back to fundamentals, i.e. it's the players. Well yes, it is bad tackling, but there's more to improving tackling than saying the system is ok, the coaches are ok, we just need to work on our tackling. Every coach in football can say the exact same thing and it means absolutely zero, zilch, nothing. It suggests an unwillingness to examine the whole thing: coaches, atmosphere, attitude, philosophy, fundamentals, scheme, players, draft choices.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExpatPacker, post: 527545, member: 5535"] Excuse me, but this defense has stumbled around from average at best to flat out bad for 3 years now. Even when they were ranked #11 last year, they got completely run over and torched silly in some important games--Indy, Minnesota and of course, the playoffs against SF. The one playoff victory came against a Minnesota team that had the Mighty Joe Webb at QB who couldn't throw a forward pass to save his life. Your stats are misleading. In the past 5 years Capers' defenses have been: 2012: #11 PPG #11 YPG 2011: #15 PPG Dead Last YPG 2010: #2 PPG #5 YPG 2009: #2 PPF #2 YPG 2013: #23 PPG #25 YPG A steady decline, and that's after 2 successive defense-oriented drafts. The excuses have become tiring. Maybe Capers is the most ingenious defensive mind out there, but if you can't get your players to play the scheme up to their potential, IT DOESN'T MATTER!! Particularly in the playoffs, this defense has been humiliated. The "improvement" in 2012 proved to be misleading--we beat a crippled Vikings team in the Wild Card and got absolutely blown out against SF. I for one do blame the coaches. Not just Capers but MM, the reason being what someone else called "the sickness of denial." McCarthy is up to his neck in it, and if I may borrow a quote, it pretty much expresses my point of view: "Every word out of MM’s mouth are words of denial. If you keep telling yourself everything is going to be OK, you start to believe it. But football is a game of performance and action, not words. The Packers defense has been sub-par for two seasons now (I would actually say three, but to be fair…). The Packer organization must start facing up to the facts (and stats) for they don’t lie – people lie (or deny), facts and stats do not. The Packer organization is going to have to do some real soul-searching if they are going to be a contender with its current leadership. I respect the Packers as a team and as an organization, and their views on loyalty, but loyalty with no performance does not win games." Actually facts and stats do lie, but in this case I think that the #11 defense last year was the big lie. In other words, MM never ever acknowledged the existence of a deeper problem...it's never the coaches, never something systemic. It's always bad tackling, getting back to fundamentals, i.e. it's the players. Well yes, it is bad tackling, but there's more to improving tackling than saying the system is ok, the coaches are ok, we just need to work on our tackling. Every coach in football can say the exact same thing and it means absolutely zero, zilch, nothing. It suggests an unwillingness to examine the whole thing: coaches, atmosphere, attitude, philosophy, fundamentals, scheme, players, draft choices. [/QUOTE]
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