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  1. majikman

    majikman Cheesehead

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    I think he would have been a decent pickup.

    Ankle injury to Snee might return Seubert to Giants' lineup
    Ankle injury to Snee might return Seubert to Giants' lineup

    By TOM CANAVAN, AP Sports Writer
    September 12, 2006

    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -- When Rich Seubert talked about having fun in recent years, it usually had to do with the practical jokes he pulled: the backup guard is one of the New York Giants' most notorious pranksters.

    Seubert will likely get a chance to have another type of fun Sunday when the Giants (0-1) travel to Philadelphia to take on the Eagles (1-0). There is a good possibility he will start at right guard in place of Chris Snee, who hurt an ankle late in the first half of the 26-21 loss to Indianapolis on Sunday night.

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    While the ankle is not broken, coach Tom Coughlin said that Snee was not able to do much a day after the game.

    That it's a game against Philadelphia brings things full circle.

    Three years ago, Seubert was a rising star. The former free agent had fought his way onto the Giants' roster in 2001 and, by the following season, he started all 16 regular-season games and a playoff game at left guard.

    But on Oct. 19, 2003, the Giants were at home against the Eagles. Late in the first quarter, the Eagles' N.D. Kalu stepped on the back of Seubert's leg and broke the fibula, tibia and ankle.

    Seubert missed the rest of 2003 and all of 2004. It took him 19 months, a couple of surgeries and much rehabilitation just to return to practice in June 2005. He made the Giants' roster that season and appeared in four games, three on special teams. The only time he played at guard was on Dec. 17, when injuries forced David Diehl to move from left guard to right tackle.

    Seubert got the start and the line cleared the way for Tiki Barber to rush for a team-record 220 yards.

    Now he gets to start earlier after earning praise from Coughlin for his replacement work in the opener.

    "I just want to play," the 27-year-old Seubert said. "The more you play, the better you get. We'll see. I felt good. I had fun. It's never fun sitting on the sidelines and not helping the team win. It's always fun to get back in there."

    "Rich was one of the best offensive lineman in the game before his injury and I think he is starting to get back to that place," Barber said.

    Seubert faces an interesting test against the Eagles.

    "This is a defensive team," Seubert said. "Indy had a bunch of speed. We all know what Philly has with (Jeremiah) Trotter in the middle and the D-line and Dhani Jones playing linebacker. Every team is different. You just have to watch tape and find some good plays that will work."

    The Giants had a lot of plays that worked against the Colts. They had 433 yards in total offense, including 186 yards rushing. The problem was penalties. Nine of the 10 called against New York were against the offense, including five false starts.

    "We let one slip this week," Seubert said. "Now we just have to get ready to play Philadelphia."
     
  2. majikman

    majikman Cheesehead

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    This guy would have been a good pickup a few weeks ago.
     
  3. YERCELL

    YERCELL Cheesehead

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    Usually if you refer to someone as "this guy," he wouldn't make that much of a difference.
     
  4. majikman

    majikman Cheesehead

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    Don't agree.

    Tiki Barber referred to him as "one of the best offensive lineman in the NFL".

    Sorry, I think I'll his word over yours.
     
  5. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    A teamate said good things about another teamate???????
     
  6. majikman

    majikman Cheesehead

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    Yeah..so what?

    Seubert is a good lineman and was available for a few weeks in August before the Giants re-signed him. What is your point?

    (And before you say, If he was so good then why was he cut? The answer is, good people are cut all the time if a team wants to make room for someone else. Seubert. Hank Fraley from the Eagles. etc..etc..)

    I would hope TT knows this.
     
  7. tonytokes

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    I guess the point is that it really doesn't matter now ?
     
  8. majikman

    majikman Cheesehead

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    It does when people make the argument that "no one is/or has been available" for TT to sign.

    And also counts when the next o-lineman becomes available.
     
  9. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Signing someone takes more than just simply being available.
     
  10. majikman

    majikman Cheesehead

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    What does that mean?

    You mean like TT getting off his *** and doing something for once?

    The guy was cut by the Giants a few weeks ago. Did TT make a move for him? I think not.

    How come other teams seem to be able to make trades and sign people, but the Packers seem to take eons to make a move or for anything to happen in the front office?
     
  11. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    What does it mean? Gosh, the player has to want to sign with GB first of all. The player has to appeal to our scheme and staff.

    Remember, Ted is not the only person who makes the decision. He simply makes the FINAL call on the decision.

    He and McCarthy have both said ted will not force players on to mccarthy and mccarthy will not force ted to get someone if he is against it.

    the staff and ted have to agree on said player.


    It seems slow because you scour information on the Packers whereas you do not do the same for the other 31 NFL teams. It's all perception bro.
     
  12. Lare

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    Be careful majikman, you get between some people and their heroes and they tend to get pretty testy. Especially when you ask them to produce facts to back up their assertations. :-?
     
  13. majikman

    majikman Cheesehead

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    C'mon Zero.

    We all know that offensive line has been a position of need for the Packers for 2 years now.

    Why the lack of urgency then? Many offensive lineman have been available in the past few months yet TT fails to move on anyone. It doesn't make sense.

    And what makes even less sense is some peoples casual attitude about the whole thing like it's no big deal. Most teams do not operate this way.

    It's bizarre.
     
  14. Chamuko

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    We wont get good O linemen until TT plays a couple of snaps at QB...

    Well if he survives !!!

    Maybe we can make MM play that couple of snaps !!!
     
  15. Ryan

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    It's all a big conspiracy to get rid of Favre, to run him out of town. No good receivers, no good O lineman... sounds like a big scandal to waste Favre's last good years.

    :)
     
  16. majikman

    majikman Cheesehead

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    No, I wouldn't say that.

    I don't know why he's doing it this way exactly, but it is wasting the remaining years Favre has with the Pack.
     
  17. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    C'mon bud. Do some research before you say something like this.

    Look at our draft.
    Look at our transactions.

    problem is we keep freakin striking out
     
  18. all about da packers

    all about da packers Cheesehead

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    66 couldn't have said it better himself. :wink:
     
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    September 13, 2006 Released fullback Vonta Leach.
    September 11, 2006 Signed wide receiver Koren Robinson.
    September 9, 2006 Released cornerback Mike Hawkins.
    September 7, 2006 Released tackle-guard Adrian Klemm.
    September 5, 2006 Signed wide receivers Chris Francies and Calvin Russell, tight end Zac Alcorn, safety Atari Bigby, cornerback Patrick Dendy, defensive end Dave Tollefson, tackle Travis Leffew and fullback Brandon Miree to the practice squad.
    September 4, 2006 Claimed cornerback Jarrett Bush off waivers from the Carolina Panthers, guard Tony Palmer off waivers from the St. Louis Rams and safety Charlie Peprah off waivers from the New York Giants; released cornerback Jason Horton.
    September 2, 2006 Placed running back Arliss Beach, tackle Josh Bourke and cornerback Mike Hawkins on injured reserve; released tight end Zac Alcorn, safeties Atari Bigby, Jeremy Modkins and Tra Boger, wide receivers Chris Francies, Cory Rodgers, Rod Gardner and Carlton Brewster, fullback Ben Brown, kicker E.J. Cochrane, running back Najeh Davenport, cornerbacks Antonio Malone and Patrick Dendy, linebackers Tim Goodwell and Roy Manning, guard Siitupe Peko, defensive lineman Kenny Peterson, defensive end Dave Tollefson and center Pete Traynor.
    September 1, 2006 Released guard-tackle William Whitticker and guard Mookie Moore.
    August 30, 2006 Claimed kicker E.J. Cochrane off waivers from the Philadelphia Eagles; released fullback A.J. Cooper, long snapper Thomas Gafford, wide receivers Chad Lucas and Calvin Russell, quarterback Brian Wrobel, defensive end Montez Murphy and defensive tackle Jerome Nichols; placed linebacker Kurt Campbell and safety Marviel Underwood on injured reserve.
    August 23, 2006 Released tackle Todd Williams.
    August 23, 2006 Released wide receiver Marc Boerigter.
    August 22, 2006 Released punter B.J. Sander and linebacker Kevin Schimmelmann.
    August 18, 2006 Released kicker Billy Cundiff.
    August 17, 2006 Signed safety Jeremy Modkins.
    August 15, 2006 Signed cornerback Antonio Malone and safety Jeremy Modkins; released wide receiver Leo Bookman and guard Wayne Lucier.
    August 7, 2006 Released linebacker Byron Santiago.
    July 30, 2006 Signed linebacker A.J. Hawk, their first-round pick, to a six-year contract.
    July 28, 2006 Signed guard Tupe Peko and linebacker Abdul Hodge.
    July 28, 2006 Signed guard-tackle Daryn Colledge and quarterback Ingle Martin; released safety Mark Roman.
    July 27, 2006 Signed guard-center Jason Spitz; released quarterback Tom Arth and running back Chaz Williams.
    July 26, 2006 Signed wide receiver-kick returner Cory Rodgers.
    July 24, 2006 Signed wide receiver Greg Jennings; released tight end Garrett Cross.
    July 19, 2006 Signed guard-tackle Tony Moll.
    July 15, 2006 Signed cornerback Will Blackmon.
    July 12, 2006 Signed safety Tyron Culver.
    July 7, 2006 Signed defensive tackle Johnny Jolly.
    June 23, 2006 Signed defensive end Dave Tollefson.
    June 3, 2006 Named Eric Lewis and Shawn Slocum assistant coaches.
    May 8, 2006 Signed fullback Ben Brown and linebacker Kevin Schimmelmann.
    May 6, 2006 Signed wide receivers Calvin Russell and Chris Francies, safety Tra Boger, running backs Arliss Beach and Shermar Bracey, fullback A.J. Cooper, linebackers Tim Goodwell and Byron Santiago, defensive end Jason Hunter and Montez Murphy, tight end Zac Alcorn and tackle Josh Bourke.
    May 2, 2006 Signed linebacker Byron Santiago.
    April 26, 2006 Signed defensive tackle Kenderick Allen, who had been with the New York Giants.
    March 28, 2006 Signed wide receiver Marc Boerigter, linebacker Ben Taylor and kicker Billy Cundiff; re-signed running back Najeh Davenport.
    March 23, 2006 Re-signed defensive tackle Colin Cole; signed quarterback Tom Arth.
    March 21, 2006 Re-signed wide receiver Rod Gardner.
    March 21, 2006 Re-signed fullback William Henderson.
    March 17, 2006 Signed linebacker Tracy White, who had been with the Jacksonville Jaguars; waived linebacker John Leake; signed defensie tackle Ryan Pickett, who had been with the St. Louis Rams, to a multi-year contract.
    March 15, 2006 Re-signed tackle Kevin Barry and defensive end Kenny Peterson.
    March 14, 2006 Signed safety Marquand Manuel, who had been with the Seattle Seahawks, to a multi-year contract; claimed wide receiver Harry Williams off waivers from the New York Jets.
    March 12, 2006 Re-signed defensive end Aaron Kampman to a multi-year contract.
    March 9, 2006 Named George Koonce director of player development.
    March 7, 2006 Re-signed running back Ahman Green and cornerback Jason Horton to one-year contracts.
    March 3, 2006 Released linebacker Na'il Diggs and punter Ryan Dutton.
    February 21, 2006 Allocated wide receivers Vince Butler and Chad Lucas, safety Atari Bigby, cornerback Therrian Fontenot, tight end Tory Humphrey, defensive tackle Jerome Nichols, guard Pete Traynor and quarterback Brian Wrobel to NFL Europe.
    February 7, 2006 Signed punters Ryan Dutton and Jon Ryan, tight end Thomas Gafford, center Wayne Lucier, defensive tackle Jerome Nichols, wide receiver Willie Quinnie and guard Pete Traynor.
    February 6, 2006 Named Eric Lewis and Shawn Slocum assistant coaches.
    January 31, 2006 Named Kurt Schottenheimer defensive backs coach.
    January 29, 2006 Named Tom Clements quarterbacks coach.
    January 28, 2006 Named Carl Hairston defensive line coach.
    January 24, 2006 Named Robert Nunn and Lionel Washington assistant coaches.
    January 21, 2006 Named Bob Sanders defensive coordinator.
    January 20, 2006 Named Mike Stock special teams coordinator, Winston Moss linebackers coach and Rock Gullickson strength and conditioning coach.
    January 16, 2006 Announced that defensive coordinator Jim Bates will not return by mutual agreement.
    January 15, 2006 Named Jeff Jagodzinski offensive coordinator.
    January 13, 2006 Fired offensive coordinator Tom Rossley, offensive line coach Larry Beightol, linebackers coach Mark Duffner, secondary-safeties coach Joe Baker, special teams coordinator John Bonamego and strength and conditioning coach Barry Rubin; fired director of football administration Bruce Warwick and weight room assistant Vince Workman.
    January 12, 2006 Named Mike McCarthy coach.
    January 4, 2006 Signed wide receivers Vince Butler, Chad Lucas and Ruvell Martin, defensive tackle Tim McGill and quarterback Brian Wrobel.
    January 3, 2006 Fired coach Mike Sherman.
    December 30, 2005 Placed wide receiver Robert Ferguson on injured reserve; signed tight end Tory Humphrey and cornerback Therrian Fontenot from the practice squad.
    December 29, 2005 Placed linebacker Robert Thomas on injured reserve.
    December 23, 2005 Placed tight end Bubba Franks and punter B.J. Sander on injured reserve; signed punter Ryan Flinn and promoted safety Atari Bigby from the practice squad; signed running back Ran Carthon to the practice squad.
    December 21, 2005 Signed defensive tackle Tim McGill and fullback Jimmy Dixon to their practice squad; released defensive end Elliott Harris and fullback Greg Hanoian from the practice squad.
    December 21, 2005 Claimed wide receiver Rod Gardner off waivers from the Carolina Panthers.
    December 14, 2005 Claimed linebacker John Leake off waivers from the Atlanta Falcons; placed linebacker Brady Poppinga on injured reserve.
    December 2, 2005 Placed running back ReShard Lee on injured reserve.
    November 30, 2005 Signed running back Noah Herron from the Pittsburgh Steelers practice squad; re-signed safety Todd Franz and placed safety Jeremy Thornburg on injured reserve.
    November 23, 2005 Placed cornerback Jason Horton on injured reserve; signed cornerback Jerron Wishom from the practice squad; signed fullback Greg Hanoian.
    November 22, 2005 Waived wide receiver Chad Lucas and safety Earl Little; released fullback Greg Hanoian from the practice squad.
    November 16, 2005 Signed defensive end Elliott Harris, wide receiver Ruvell Martin and tight end Tory Humphrey to the practice squad.
    November 12, 2005 Signed cornerback Patrick Dendy from the practice squad.
    November 12, 2005 Placed running back Walt Williams on injured reserve.
    November 10, 2005 Signed wide receiver Chad Lucas from the practice squad; released wide receiver Taco Wallace; re-signed wide receiver Vince Butler to the practice squad.
    November 2, 2005 Waived cornerback Joey Thomas; claimed defensive back Jeremy Thornburg off waivers from the San Francisco 49ers.
    November 2, 2005 Signed linebacker Atari Bigby, fullback Greg Hanoian and wide receiver Reggie Harrell to the practice squad; released wide receiver Craig Bragg and linebacker Zax Woodfin.
    October 29, 2005 Placed safety Earl Little on injured reserve; signed running back Samkon Gado to the active roster.
    October 26, 2005 Placed running back Ahman Green on injured reserve; signed wide receiver Taco Wallace and re-signed running back Walt Williams; released wide receiver Jamal Jones.
    October 17, 2005 Signed running back Sam Gado to the practice squad; released running back Bobby Purify from the practice squad.
    October 11, 2005 Placed running back Najeh Davenport on injured reserve.
    October 6, 2005 Signed running back ReShard Lee; placed wide receiver Terrence Murphy on injured reserve.
    October 6, 2005 Signed wide receiver Jamal Jones to the active roster; signed guard Joe Hayes to the practice squad.
    October 5, 2005 Waived tight end Ben Steele.
    September 28, 2005 Signed running back Bobby Purify to the practice squad; released running back Antoineo Harris from the practice squad.
    September 22, 2005 Placed wide receiver Javon Walker on injured reserve with a torn ACL; re-signed tight end Ben Steele.
    September 8, 2005 Signed running back Antoineo Harris to the practice squad.
    September 7, 2005 Signed tight end Donald Lee; signed fullback Vonta Leach from the practice squad; released tight end Ben Steele and fullback Nick Luchey.
    September 6, 2005 Signed cornerbacks Patrick Dendy and Therrian Fontenot, wide receiver-kick returner Craig Bragg, fullback Vonta Leach, linebacker Zac Woodfin and wide receiver Chad Lucas to the practice squad.
    September 4, 2005 Acquired linebacker Robert Thomas from the St. Louis Rams for cornerback Chris Johnson; released quarterback J.T. O'Sullivan, running back Walt Williams, fullback Vonta Leach, wide receivers Craig Bragg, Sam Breeden, Jamal Jones and Andrae Thurman, tight end Sean McHugh, tackles-guards Brad Bedell and Joe Hayes, defensive tackles Cletidus Hunt and James Lee, defensive ends R-Kal Truluck and Seante Williams, linebackers Corey Jenkins, Nick McNeil and Ray Thompson and cornerbacks Chris Day and Lei
    September 1, 2005 Waived safety Julius Curry and linebacker Zac Woodfin; claimed linebacker Corey Jenkins off waivers from the Miami Dolphins.
    August 31, 2005 Placed linebacker Kurt Campbell and Steve Fleming on injured reserve.
    August 29, 2005 Released linebackers Hannibal Navies and Jeremiah Garrison, guard Matt O'Dwyer, guard-tackle Atlas Herrion, tight end Tory Humphrey, running back Derrick Johnese, wide receiver Chad Lucas, defensive tackles Quintene Newhouse and A.J. Lindsay and cornerback Patrick Dendy.
    August 25, 2005 Signed tight end Bubba Franks to a multi-year contract.
    August 24, 2005 Signed executive vice president-coach Mike Sherman to a two-year contract extension.
    August 18, 2005 Waived offensive tackle Brennan Curtin.
    August 17, 2005 Signed linebacker Jeremiah Garrison.
    August 14, 2005 Released safety Arturo Freeman; activated cornerback Chris Johnson from the physically-unable-to-perform list.
    August 8, 2005 Signed cornerback Charles Byrd and running back Joey Harris; waived punter Bryce Benekos.
    August 5, 2005 Signed running back Derrick Johnese; waived running back Chris Robertson.
    August 2, 2005 Signed tight end Tory Humphrey.
    July 31, 2005 Signed quarterback Aaron Rodgers, their first round pick.
    July 30, 2005 Signed defensive tackle Quintene Newhouse; waived wide receiver Chris Samp.
    July 29, 2005 Signed safety Nick Collins and wide receiver Terrence Murphy.
    June 22, 2005 Signed defensive end Michael Montgomery.
    June 20, 2005 Signed guard William Whitticker.
    June 18, 2005 Signed tight end Steve Fleming.
    June 15, 2005 Waived wide receiver-kick returner Kelvin Knight, linebacker Shawn Morgan and defensive tackle Doug Sims.
    June 11, 2005 Waived quarterback Scott McBrien.
    June 8, 2005 Signed wide receiver Chad Lucas.
    May 17, 2005 Signed offensive lineman Junius Coston.
    April 30, 2005 Waived linebacker Ike Emodi; signed running back Chaz Williams, receivers Vince Butler and Chris Samp, tight end Garrett Cross, offensive lineman Chris White, defensive tackle A.J. Lindsay, linebackers Roy Manning and Zac Woodfin, cornerback Leigh Torrence and punter Bryce Benekos.
    April 27, 2005 Re-signed linebacker Hannibal Navies; waived linebacker Steve Josue.
    April 26, 2005 Signed cornerback Patrick Dendy.
    April 23, 2005 Signed linebacker Ray Thompson, who had been with the Arizona Cardinals; re-signed tackle Kevin Barry and quarterback J.T. O'Sullivan.
    April 21, 2005 Matched the one-year offer sheet tendered to restricted free agent defensive end Aaron Kampman by the Minnesota Vikings.
    April 18, 2005 Re-signed quarterback Craig Nall.
    April 16, 2005 Signed safeties Arturo Freeman, who had been with the Miami Dolphins and Earl Little, who had been with the Cleveland Browns.
    April 14, 2005 Re-signed linebacker Paris Lenon.
    April 9, 2005 Waived wide receiver Mike Marker.
    April 5, 2005 Re-signed tight end Ben Steele.
    April 2, 2005 Re-signed running back Najeh Davenport.
    March 30, 2005 Re-signed defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins.
    March 25, 2005 Signed guard Matt O'Dwyer, who had been with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
    March 18, 2005 Signed tackle Adrian Klemm, who had been with the New England Patriots, to a multi-year contract.
    March 16, 2005 Re-signed tight end David Martin.
    March 16, 2005 Re-signed center Grey Ruegamer and safety Todd Franz.
    March 10, 2005 Terminated the contract of safety Darren Sharper; waived tight end Sparky Hamilton.
    March 4, 2005 Released cornerback Michael Hawthorne.
    March 2, 2005 Released guard Mike Wahle and center-guard Grey Ruegamer; re-signed wide receiver Antonio Chatman and defensive end R-Kal Truluck to one-year contracts.
    February 23, 2005 Named James Franklin wide receivers coach.
    February 19, 2005 Named Charlie Jackson defensive quality control coach, Joe Baker secondary and safeties coach, Bob Sanders defensive line and ends coach, Robert Nunn defensive tackles coach and Lionel Washington cornerbacks coach.
    February 16, 2005 Named Joe Baker a defensive assistant.
    February 11, 2005 Named Turner Gill director of player development-offensive assistant.
    February 10, 2005 Signed linebacker Shawn Morgan.
    February 9, 2005 Named Bob Sanders and Robert Nunn defensive assistant coaches.
    January 29, 2005 Named Edgar Bennett running backs coach.
    January 24, 2005 Named Jim Bates defensive coordinator.
    January 19, 2005 Signed the following players to future contracts: wide receivers Sam Breeden, Jamal Jones, Kelvin Kight and Mike Marker; guards Joe Hayes, Atlas Herrion and Joe Quinn; safeties Julius Curry, Chonn Lacey, Art Smith and Wendell Williams; linebackers John Garrett and Nick McNeil; punter Brooks Barnard; cornerback Chris Day; tight end Sparky Hamilton; quarterback Scott McBrien; running back Chris Robertson; defensive tackle Doug Sims; and defensive end Seante Williams.
    January 15, 2005 Named Ted Thompson general manager and director of football operations.
     
  20. Zero2Cool

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    Made a mistake by not re-signing Wahle that is for sure. I'm still not happy about that move, err lack of move. :)


    Looks like quite a bit of offensive lineman came to GB though.


    In the two drafts Ted has administrated...
    • C/G Junius Coston
      G Will Whitticker
      T/G Daryn Colledge
      G/C Jason Spitz
      T/G Tony Moll

    Five picks out of 23.


    I suppose thats not aggressive though. That's over 20% of the draft picks used on the OL and that doesnt even include all the free agents he brought in.

    It should be noted the free agents for lack of a better term, sucked. lol
     
  21. Ryan

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    here here, picking up what I am puttin' down AADP ;)


    Zero are you using facts? You know we don't honor those on this site :roll: only what people that have no business making any sort of decision in the NFL say is fact around here... it's all about the conspiracy... remember this isn't a business, we play favorites to keep the fans happy.
     
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    I always try to use facts!! I like being prepared so before I make a bold statement I tend to look into it first for supporting evidence :)
     

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