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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 250132" data-attributes="member: 1429">Rodgers and Collins have not produced early? Really? Rodgers had a future HoF ahead of him, and Collins got hurt. When they had a full season (or so) to play, they produced. And very well. Nobody argues about TT's ineffectiveness in getting Olinemen, but skilled positions are abundant on this packers team (Rb, not so much... Grant is very competent, IMO, but certainly not a great back). Like I said in another post, I believe it has more to do with the coaching staff than the players, but right now I don't have a lot of confidence in my arguments... We'll just have to see. I've lost my patience, but I'll reserve real judgment to after the queens game. And if we're playing well, then a couple more games. -The thing with fans that "drank the kool-aid", is that they understanded that TT was rebuilding, and set a time. The time is this season. That is why a lot more people are freaking out right now than before.</blockquote>

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