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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 742778" data-attributes="member: 7261"><p>I would be more optimistic about all of that if we had a decent healthy defense and OL.  But we don't.  Also, I don't think we see #12 back this year.  For 2 reasons.  One, this is his throwing shoulder, not the left collarbone like his previous injury.  His recovery time will be longer.  Second, even if somehow is ready to go, mid December, I think the Packers will be so far out of the chase by then, it will make more sense to pack him up for the season and let him fully recover.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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