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<blockquote data-quote="Thirteen Below" data-source="post: 1037709" data-attributes="member: 18006"><p>I'm going out on a limb here, and saying the opposite may be true - it may actually have been a <em>good</em> move.</p><p></p><p>The last couple of years prior to Love, Aaron's game had been leveling off a bit - still very good, but down a bit in some ways from his heyday in 2009-2014. He'd had a few injuries, and 2017-18 were pretty poorby his standards.</p><p></p><p>He was getting a reputatiion for being aloof, moody, critical of his teammates but not of himself, and difficult to coach. He'd even started to mention in an occasional interview that he wasn't really thinking of retirement yet, which of course meant that he <em>was</em> at least a little bit<em>,</em> because otherwise why would he mention that he wasn't really thinking about it?</p><p></p><p>We all know Rodgers plays his best when he has a chip on his shoulder, when he's pissed because he isn't getting the respect he thinks he's due, and especially when he thinks he has something to prove to the world.</p><p></p><p>So what happens? Packers take a QB in the 1st, and Rodgers pitches his littlw mini-tantrum and then goes right out there and pitches the 2nd and 3rd best statistical seasons of his career, doubling his MVP total by winning it both years - his first MVP in 8 seasons.</p><p></p><p>I don't know if I can really believe that's any kind of coincidence. You don't draft Love in 20, I don't think Rodgers gets those last 2 MVPs, or the 111 and 108 QB ratings, or the 48:5 and 37:4 TD/INT ratios. I'm not saying Gute is an evil genius for cooking up that master plan - he was probably as surprised as anyone - buit I think he was pretty pleased with how it turned out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure you can fault Gute for not calling him. When was he supposed to do that? It probably depends on how long before he made the pick did he make up his mind, but Green Bay probably only had 10 or 12 to discuss the pick, go around the horn and make sure everyone was down with it, finalize the deal with Miami, and get the pick in. At what point does Aaron get his turn to weigh in? Gute said afterward he felt badly that he didn't have the opportunity to alert him, but that it happened too fast in real time.</p><p></p><p>==================</p><p>Edit: I don't understand what is happening here; I keep trying to post a link to a Bleacher Report article but the link doesn't display.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Breer+reported+that+the+Packers+thought+Love+would+be+off+the+board+earlier%2C+so+they+intended+to+select+a+wideout+or+offensive+tackle+in+the+first+round.+But+when+he+was+still+available+at+No.+26%2C+the+Packers+decided+to+trade+up+to+land+him.+%0D%0A%0D%0A&sca_esv=98b82af0db96049a&ei=XIW1Zr2GGJnhp84PrJzKkAI&ved=0ahUKEwi9pLTR9OaHAxWZ8MkDHSyOEiIQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=Breer+reported+that+the+Packers+thought+Love+would+be+off+the+board+earlier%2C+so+they+intended+to+select+a+wideout+or+offensive+tackle+in+the+first+round.+But+when+he+was+still+available+at+No.+26%2C+the+Packers+decided+to+trade+up+to+land+him.+%0D%0A%0D%0A&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp" target="_blank">Here's a link</a> to a google results page, and the top hit on the page takes you to the BR page.</p><p> </p><p>In case it still doesn't display, here's some of the text...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think you can say, "well, if he was even considering the possibility of taking a quarterback, he should have given Rodgers a warning", but... why? You know damned well how much that's goiong to **** off a prima dona like Rodgers, and to warn him that there was a chance and then draft Ayuk instead, now you've pissed him off for no reason at all. Gute was in a tight spot.</p><p></p><p>And besides, just days before the draft, ESPN asked Rodgers if he was alright with GB drafting a QB, and he said straifght up, "nah, I'm good with that... it's a business, I understand. The guy won't beat me out anyway".</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41092518-4[/URL]</p><p></p><p>And then he whines because it was unfair to him to draft a quarteback without his blessing? The ultimate hypocrite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thirteen Below, post: 1037709, member: 18006"] I'm going out on a limb here, and saying the opposite may be true - it may actually have been a [I]good[/I] move. The last couple of years prior to Love, Aaron's game had been leveling off a bit - still very good, but down a bit in some ways from his heyday in 2009-2014. He'd had a few injuries, and 2017-18 were pretty poorby his standards. He was getting a reputatiion for being aloof, moody, critical of his teammates but not of himself, and difficult to coach. He'd even started to mention in an occasional interview that he wasn't really thinking of retirement yet, which of course meant that he [I]was[/I] at least a little bit[I],[/I] because otherwise why would he mention that he wasn't really thinking about it? We all know Rodgers plays his best when he has a chip on his shoulder, when he's pissed because he isn't getting the respect he thinks he's due, and especially when he thinks he has something to prove to the world. So what happens? Packers take a QB in the 1st, and Rodgers pitches his littlw mini-tantrum and then goes right out there and pitches the 2nd and 3rd best statistical seasons of his career, doubling his MVP total by winning it both years - his first MVP in 8 seasons. I don't know if I can really believe that's any kind of coincidence. You don't draft Love in 20, I don't think Rodgers gets those last 2 MVPs, or the 111 and 108 QB ratings, or the 48:5 and 37:4 TD/INT ratios. I'm not saying Gute is an evil genius for cooking up that master plan - he was probably as surprised as anyone - buit I think he was pretty pleased with how it turned out. I'm not sure you can fault Gute for not calling him. When was he supposed to do that? It probably depends on how long before he made the pick did he make up his mind, but Green Bay probably only had 10 or 12 to discuss the pick, go around the horn and make sure everyone was down with it, finalize the deal with Miami, and get the pick in. At what point does Aaron get his turn to weigh in? Gute said afterward he felt badly that he didn't have the opportunity to alert him, but that it happened too fast in real time. ================== Edit: I don't understand what is happening here; I keep trying to post a link to a Bleacher Report article but the link doesn't display. [URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=Breer+reported+that+the+Packers+thought+Love+would+be+off+the+board+earlier%2C+so+they+intended+to+select+a+wideout+or+offensive+tackle+in+the+first+round.+But+when+he+was+still+available+at+No.+26%2C+the+Packers+decided+to+trade+up+to+land+him.+%0D%0A%0D%0A&sca_esv=98b82af0db96049a&ei=XIW1Zr2GGJnhp84PrJzKkAI&ved=0ahUKEwi9pLTR9OaHAxWZ8MkDHSyOEiIQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=Breer+reported+that+the+Packers+thought+Love+would+be+off+the+board+earlier%2C+so+they+intended+to+select+a+wideout+or+offensive+tackle+in+the+first+round.+But+when+he+was+still+available+at+No.+26%2C+the+Packers+decided+to+trade+up+to+land+him.+%0D%0A%0D%0A&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp']Here's a link[/URL] to a google results page, and the top hit on the page takes you to the BR page. In case it still doesn't display, here's some of the text... I don't think you can say, "well, if he was even considering the possibility of taking a quarterback, he should have given Rodgers a warning", but... why? You know damned well how much that's goiong to **** off a prima dona like Rodgers, and to warn him that there was a chance and then draft Ayuk instead, now you've pissed him off for no reason at all. Gute was in a tight spot. And besides, just days before the draft, ESPN asked Rodgers if he was alright with GB drafting a QB, and he said straifght up, "nah, I'm good with that... it's a business, I understand. The guy won't beat me out anyway". [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41092518-4[/URL] And then he whines because it was unfair to him to draft a quarteback without his blessing? The ultimate hypocrite. [/QUOTE]
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