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<blockquote data-quote="Sunshinepacker" data-source="post: 1000728" data-attributes="member: 9033"><p>Because that draft could have been (some would say <em>should </em>have been) Michael Pittman Jr or Tee Higgins. It's very easy to extrapolate how either of those players would have helped the Packers when compared to a player who sat on the bench the entire game against the Bucs (easiest extrapolation) or the 49ers.</p><p></p><p>Lets assume the Packers drafted Pittman rather than Higgins (Pittman fits the athletic profile the Packers tend to favor more closely than Higgins AND Pittman is the worse of the two players so this is, imo, being as conservative as I can get). In the NFCCG, the Packers' offense put up 26 points against the Bucs (for reference, the Chiefs managed to score 9 points in the Super Bowl); 16 of those 26 came in the second half, when the offense was missing Aaron Jones, the second leading passing target on the season and Jones was also tied with Lazard and MVS with six in that game, and the Bucs switched their defense to take Adams out of the game. Now, is Pittman an elite receiver? No. Is he better than Lazard in the receiving game (Lazard is the better blocker)? Yes, Pittman is the better receiver. I don't think it's a stretch to say that, had the Packers been able to rely on a guy who had over 1,000 yards receiving with Wentz as his QB, it would have been a huge upgrade in the passing game that could have either taken advantage of the Bucs overloading to take out Adams or even prevented the Bucs from being able to focus all their attention on Adams. Now, take everything I just said above and apply it to the 49ers game but now Pittman is a second-year receiver.</p><p></p><p>See, what I did here, which I like to do in general, is lay out a rational, logical discussion on how things might have changed based on a scenario which a LOT of people saw, prior to the 2020 draft, as the direction the Packers should have gone. What you continue to do, is ignore the central point of "Love didn't play a single snap during either NFCCG so a player that DID PLAY would have been more helpful" by bringing up a guy picked in the fifth round for a rebuilding team. I would love to hear a cogent response from someone that refutes what I have said. Perhaps you think Pittman wouldn't have been good enough to outpace Marcedes Lewis. I wouldn't agree but that response would at least address what I'm saying, rather than ignoring the premise of the discussion and spouting random drafted players for rebuilding teams and ignoring any and all context. E.g., why would I have to apply my very specific 2020 draft scenario to the 2005 or the 2023 draft where there was no similarity?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunshinepacker, post: 1000728, member: 9033"] Because that draft could have been (some would say [I]should [/I]have been) Michael Pittman Jr or Tee Higgins. It's very easy to extrapolate how either of those players would have helped the Packers when compared to a player who sat on the bench the entire game against the Bucs (easiest extrapolation) or the 49ers. Lets assume the Packers drafted Pittman rather than Higgins (Pittman fits the athletic profile the Packers tend to favor more closely than Higgins AND Pittman is the worse of the two players so this is, imo, being as conservative as I can get). In the NFCCG, the Packers' offense put up 26 points against the Bucs (for reference, the Chiefs managed to score 9 points in the Super Bowl); 16 of those 26 came in the second half, when the offense was missing Aaron Jones, the second leading passing target on the season and Jones was also tied with Lazard and MVS with six in that game, and the Bucs switched their defense to take Adams out of the game. Now, is Pittman an elite receiver? No. Is he better than Lazard in the receiving game (Lazard is the better blocker)? Yes, Pittman is the better receiver. I don't think it's a stretch to say that, had the Packers been able to rely on a guy who had over 1,000 yards receiving with Wentz as his QB, it would have been a huge upgrade in the passing game that could have either taken advantage of the Bucs overloading to take out Adams or even prevented the Bucs from being able to focus all their attention on Adams. Now, take everything I just said above and apply it to the 49ers game but now Pittman is a second-year receiver. See, what I did here, which I like to do in general, is lay out a rational, logical discussion on how things might have changed based on a scenario which a LOT of people saw, prior to the 2020 draft, as the direction the Packers should have gone. What you continue to do, is ignore the central point of "Love didn't play a single snap during either NFCCG so a player that DID PLAY would have been more helpful" by bringing up a guy picked in the fifth round for a rebuilding team. I would love to hear a cogent response from someone that refutes what I have said. Perhaps you think Pittman wouldn't have been good enough to outpace Marcedes Lewis. I wouldn't agree but that response would at least address what I'm saying, rather than ignoring the premise of the discussion and spouting random drafted players for rebuilding teams and ignoring any and all context. E.g., why would I have to apply my very specific 2020 draft scenario to the 2005 or the 2023 draft where there was no similarity? [/QUOTE]
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