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<blockquote data-quote="all about da packers" data-source="post: 124480" data-attributes="member: 227"><p><strong>The negative side of beating the chokings</strong></p><p></p><p>Cali, I agree with your first point whole heartedly.</p><p></p><p>Look, this team has mostly beat the teams that are LOWER than them in the standings. We've struggled against teams similar to our records, and we've been made to look foolish against real playoff teams.</p><p></p><p>There is a huge disparity between the top talent of the Packers and the top talent of someone such as the Pats/Bears. Look at what happened when DD went out yesterday for a bit, we punted. We need to have a chance at matching these guys next year if we want a playoff shot. The best way to do that is get the best available YOUNG talent that is full of upside and ready to make an impact. The draft is the best way to do it.</p><p></p><p>The Packers DESPERATELY need a pass rushing DE and a mamoth DT (Shaun Rogers type). Historically these players are only available at the top of the draft, usually top 5-7 slots. </p><p></p><p>Packers DESPERATELY need a CB that can be a shutdown corner. Best chance to get this is AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT.</p><p></p><p>The Packers have no true WR threat after DD. I'm willing to bet you'd be quite at ease if we got Calvin Johnson/Ted Ginn Jr. type players. Problem is that these players are ONLY AVAILABLE AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT. You may bring up players like Donald Driver and M. Colston as being 7th round gems, but for every one of those there are at least 50 WRs that turn out to be nothing. </p><p></p><p>The Packers are a young team that is void of depth at TE. We need a playmaking type TE, and the best place to find one is AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT. Antonio Gates is an exception to the rule, not the norm.</p><p></p><p>Packers desperately need more depth to push their young players. Most of the players taken in the lower rounds of the draft aren't going to be great. If you have a higher pick in the sixth round, you have a greater chance of finding a talent than picking last in the sixth round. The Packers are a rebuilding team that needs to get its hands on the best available talent.</p><p></p><p>I know I'll take a lot of heat for this, but I am more than happy to endure a few 4-6 win seasons NOW in return for a better collection of talent down the line. That is the only way I see the Packers getting anywhere in the post Favre era; there will no longer be a single player to make this team the dominating force that Favre alone was capable of doing, instead they will need to rely on a few outstanding players to pick up the slack collectively. </p><p></p><p>History has proven the outstanding/best players are usually taken at or near the top of the draft. The Packers need these types of players. That is why I can't understand people dismissing the draft position as being something mundane.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="all about da packers, post: 124480, member: 227"] [b]The negative side of beating the chokings[/b] Cali, I agree with your first point whole heartedly. Look, this team has mostly beat the teams that are LOWER than them in the standings. We've struggled against teams similar to our records, and we've been made to look foolish against real playoff teams. There is a huge disparity between the top talent of the Packers and the top talent of someone such as the Pats/Bears. Look at what happened when DD went out yesterday for a bit, we punted. We need to have a chance at matching these guys next year if we want a playoff shot. The best way to do that is get the best available YOUNG talent that is full of upside and ready to make an impact. The draft is the best way to do it. The Packers DESPERATELY need a pass rushing DE and a mamoth DT (Shaun Rogers type). Historically these players are only available at the top of the draft, usually top 5-7 slots. Packers DESPERATELY need a CB that can be a shutdown corner. Best chance to get this is AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT. The Packers have no true WR threat after DD. I'm willing to bet you'd be quite at ease if we got Calvin Johnson/Ted Ginn Jr. type players. Problem is that these players are ONLY AVAILABLE AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT. You may bring up players like Donald Driver and M. Colston as being 7th round gems, but for every one of those there are at least 50 WRs that turn out to be nothing. The Packers are a young team that is void of depth at TE. We need a playmaking type TE, and the best place to find one is AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT. Antonio Gates is an exception to the rule, not the norm. Packers desperately need more depth to push their young players. Most of the players taken in the lower rounds of the draft aren't going to be great. If you have a higher pick in the sixth round, you have a greater chance of finding a talent than picking last in the sixth round. The Packers are a rebuilding team that needs to get its hands on the best available talent. I know I'll take a lot of heat for this, but I am more than happy to endure a few 4-6 win seasons NOW in return for a better collection of talent down the line. That is the only way I see the Packers getting anywhere in the post Favre era; there will no longer be a single player to make this team the dominating force that Favre alone was capable of doing, instead they will need to rely on a few outstanding players to pick up the slack collectively. History has proven the outstanding/best players are usually taken at or near the top of the draft. The Packers need these types of players. That is why I can't understand people dismissing the draft position as being something mundane. [/QUOTE]
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