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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 284503" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>You're right that 3-4 DL don't get many sacks. But they disrupt the pocket and get pressure on QBs, which only Jenkins was able to do, and when he was fresh.</p><p></p><p>And about the ILB, I don't know... Barnett had 4 sacks, as much as Patrick Willis and more than Ray Lewis, despite not playing a lot of snaps early on. Chillar had 2, and he lost time also... I thought the ILB cross blitz was actually one of our best plays... Barnett himself had a blast doing it against DAL and SEA...</p><p></p><p>And one more thing. If we stay 4-3, we don't draft CM3. </p><p></p><p>And call me crazy, I love Aaron Kampman (see here:<a href="http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/kampman-not-as-good-as-advertised/comment-page-1#comment-8542" target="_blank">http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/kampman-not-as-good-as-advertised/comment-page-1#comment-8542</a>. See the whole debate if you will). But CM3 is quite frankly the best pass rusher I've seen since Reggie White in GB. He's a beast, he could very well be the best in the league in a few years. And I would absolutely trade Kampman for CM3.</p><p></p><p>Plus, like some other said, our personel actually fits better in the 3-4 than in the 4-3:</p><p>Jolly=3-4</p><p>Pickett=3-4</p><p>Jenkins=4-3</p><p>CM3=3-4</p><p>Barnett=good in both, but he had quite a year last year...</p><p>Hawk=3-4 (compare Hawk in 08 to Hawk in 09 and you'll know what I'm talking about)</p><p>Jones=3-4</p><p>Chillar=3-4</p><p>I'll even throw in Kampman=4-3</p><p></p><p>Fact is, we had 2 DEs to work the 4-3, but absolutely no depth whatsoever after them, and we didn't have any DT for the 4-3. Our guys weren't very good in generating pressure, which was still a problem in the 3-4, but in the 3-4 they could hold the point of attack, and become a stout run D...</p><p></p><p>BTW, I didn't thought it would work at first, and I'm actually more of a 4-3 guy, I think it's much harder to pull nowadays, with every college using smaller linemen, but nothing is better for a D when the 4-3 DL can generate pressure everytime.</p><p></p><p>But I believe we're better off with the 3-4... Now with film of themselves playing Capers' version of the 3-4, I believe they'll be better. Capers' playbook is thick enough to still have some new plays that aren't out there, so the element of surprise isn't totally out. And I believe that practice and familiarity are way better than a supposed surprise...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 284503, member: 1429"] You're right that 3-4 DL don't get many sacks. But they disrupt the pocket and get pressure on QBs, which only Jenkins was able to do, and when he was fresh. And about the ILB, I don't know... Barnett had 4 sacks, as much as Patrick Willis and more than Ray Lewis, despite not playing a lot of snaps early on. Chillar had 2, and he lost time also... I thought the ILB cross blitz was actually one of our best plays... Barnett himself had a blast doing it against DAL and SEA... And one more thing. If we stay 4-3, we don't draft CM3. And call me crazy, I love Aaron Kampman (see here:[url]http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/kampman-not-as-good-as-advertised/comment-page-1#comment-8542[/url]. See the whole debate if you will). But CM3 is quite frankly the best pass rusher I've seen since Reggie White in GB. He's a beast, he could very well be the best in the league in a few years. And I would absolutely trade Kampman for CM3. Plus, like some other said, our personel actually fits better in the 3-4 than in the 4-3: Jolly=3-4 Pickett=3-4 Jenkins=4-3 CM3=3-4 Barnett=good in both, but he had quite a year last year... Hawk=3-4 (compare Hawk in 08 to Hawk in 09 and you'll know what I'm talking about) Jones=3-4 Chillar=3-4 I'll even throw in Kampman=4-3 Fact is, we had 2 DEs to work the 4-3, but absolutely no depth whatsoever after them, and we didn't have any DT for the 4-3. Our guys weren't very good in generating pressure, which was still a problem in the 3-4, but in the 3-4 they could hold the point of attack, and become a stout run D... BTW, I didn't thought it would work at first, and I'm actually more of a 4-3 guy, I think it's much harder to pull nowadays, with every college using smaller linemen, but nothing is better for a D when the 4-3 DL can generate pressure everytime. But I believe we're better off with the 3-4... Now with film of themselves playing Capers' version of the 3-4, I believe they'll be better. Capers' playbook is thick enough to still have some new plays that aren't out there, so the element of surprise isn't totally out. And I believe that practice and familiarity are way better than a supposed surprise... [/QUOTE]
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