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<blockquote data-quote="dxbfan" data-source="post: 117165" data-attributes="member: 722"><p>When I first read your post I thought perhaps things were not as bad they seem but the more I read it, the more I felt that I think you've made some generalisations that dont stand up to scrutiny.</p><p></p><p></p><p>"1. We now have a near elite group of LBs, with depth as well, where we had only one player in the form of Nick Barnett under MS."</p><p></p><p>I dont think one can yet include Poppinga in the calibre of near elite. Yes we now have 2 near elite LBs as opposed to 1 under MS.</p><p></p><p>"2. The O-line is young but maturing quickly. Wahle is grossly overpaid based strictly on performance, so that arguement is diminished greatly. Plus, for those who still crave Hutchinson and his $49 million contract, how about that Vikings run game? Excellent display of restraint by TT IMHO."</p><p></p><p>True for Hutchinson, however if Wahle wasnt performing he wouldnt have gone to the Pro Bowl last year.</p><p></p><p>"3. Like the LBs, we now have a young and talented group of DL with substantial depth which allows for good rotation to keep players fresh."</p><p></p><p>So far so good. As the Jenkins, Coles, Williams develop the more it will become a challenge to retain all of them as they hit FA. </p><p></p><p>"4. The young depth has allowed for improved special teams play. Yes, they have a ways to go, but are much better than in years past."</p><p></p><p>The stats dont bear you out. here's an analysis over the last 4 years on 4 parameters and the Packers standing in the league:</p><p></p><p>Year 03 04 05 05</p><p>Punt returns 22 22 13 25</p><p>KO returns 05 15 32 28</p><p>Punt defense 19 20 09 25</p><p>KO defense 11 10 12 13</p><p></p><p>"5. Our kicker is a wash with Longwell thus far, and our punter clearly has out-performed previous Sherman pet....B.J. Sander."</p><p></p><p>As long as you dont consider net yardage, where our punter is ranked 22nd.</p><p></p><p>"7. TT rid the team of previous Sherman pet and locker room cancer C. Hunt. This move ALONE tells me that TT has the team heading in the right direction. B.S. WILL NOT be tolerated in GB. You too, Javon."</p><p></p><p>Where does Manuel fit in against that logic?</p><p></p><p>"8. Last, but certainly not least, TT has a skill for drafting players who seem to project quickly to the NFL and put up good performances early and consistently in their early careers. Hawk, Collins (coaching is killing the secondary), Jennings, College, Spitz, Moll, among others."</p><p></p><p>The 2005 draft has produced 2 starters - Collins and Poppinga, performance of both has been average this year. Of the 11 players drafted, 4 are no longer with the team. Its too early to judge the 2006 draft but yes, Hawk and Jennings have been outstanding.</p><p></p><p>"Careful with the Dungy comments, folks. The NFL thought police might slap your hands for opining on the sacred issue of minority coaches. You know, the same people who for years, and who still, put "Daunte Culpepper" and "elite QB" in the same sentence!!"</p><p></p><p>I think race has no place in sport and the less reference we make to it, the better!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dxbfan, post: 117165, member: 722"] When I first read your post I thought perhaps things were not as bad they seem but the more I read it, the more I felt that I think you've made some generalisations that dont stand up to scrutiny. "1. We now have a near elite group of LBs, with depth as well, where we had only one player in the form of Nick Barnett under MS." I dont think one can yet include Poppinga in the calibre of near elite. Yes we now have 2 near elite LBs as opposed to 1 under MS. "2. The O-line is young but maturing quickly. Wahle is grossly overpaid based strictly on performance, so that arguement is diminished greatly. Plus, for those who still crave Hutchinson and his $49 million contract, how about that Vikings run game? Excellent display of restraint by TT IMHO." True for Hutchinson, however if Wahle wasnt performing he wouldnt have gone to the Pro Bowl last year. "3. Like the LBs, we now have a young and talented group of DL with substantial depth which allows for good rotation to keep players fresh." So far so good. As the Jenkins, Coles, Williams develop the more it will become a challenge to retain all of them as they hit FA. "4. The young depth has allowed for improved special teams play. Yes, they have a ways to go, but are much better than in years past." The stats dont bear you out. here's an analysis over the last 4 years on 4 parameters and the Packers standing in the league: Year 03 04 05 05 Punt returns 22 22 13 25 KO returns 05 15 32 28 Punt defense 19 20 09 25 KO defense 11 10 12 13 "5. Our kicker is a wash with Longwell thus far, and our punter clearly has out-performed previous Sherman pet....B.J. Sander." As long as you dont consider net yardage, where our punter is ranked 22nd. "7. TT rid the team of previous Sherman pet and locker room cancer C. Hunt. This move ALONE tells me that TT has the team heading in the right direction. B.S. WILL NOT be tolerated in GB. You too, Javon." Where does Manuel fit in against that logic? "8. Last, but certainly not least, TT has a skill for drafting players who seem to project quickly to the NFL and put up good performances early and consistently in their early careers. Hawk, Collins (coaching is killing the secondary), Jennings, College, Spitz, Moll, among others." The 2005 draft has produced 2 starters - Collins and Poppinga, performance of both has been average this year. Of the 11 players drafted, 4 are no longer with the team. Its too early to judge the 2006 draft but yes, Hawk and Jennings have been outstanding. "Careful with the Dungy comments, folks. The NFL thought police might slap your hands for opining on the sacred issue of minority coaches. You know, the same people who for years, and who still, put "Daunte Culpepper" and "elite QB" in the same sentence!!" I think race has no place in sport and the less reference we make to it, the better! [/QUOTE]
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