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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 715161" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>Well, a 3-4 OLB is a DE sometimes and a OLB sometimes.</p><p></p><p>You're almost right. a 3-4 is a 5-2 <em><strong>on running plays.</strong></em> There is stops.</p><p></p><p>On passing plays, a 3-4 looks just like a 4-3. One 3-4 DE and the NT become a 4-3 NT and 3-technique DT, typically the weak/right 3-4 DE. The DE is the same as the 4-3 left/strong 4-3 DE.</p><p></p><p>The right/weak 3-4 OLB becomes the 4th lineman and rushes the passer. The left/strong 3-4 OLB plays a role similar to the 4-3 strong OLB. Hit the TE (which typically denotes the strength of the offensive formation) and drop into coverage.</p><p></p><p>The nice thing about a 3-4 is that, optimally, any of the 4 linebackers can become the 4th rusher. The easy to see case is motioning the TE across the formation. Strength has changed, roles for the left and right sides of the defense flip accordingly. This of a 3-4 of a "balanced" front. IE, the left OLB is now weakside, he rushes and the right, now-strong-side OLB becomes the cover man.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure you can.</p><p></p><p>Rushing 5 is risky. The entire league rushses 5 or more about 30% of the time. Depending on the coordinator, that number can be as low as 20%. There is a reason for that. If you rush 5, you have to make a concession in coverage. You have to, due to that pesky 12-men on the field penalty. With only 6 in coverage, you have two options. Single High Safety or Don't Cover One of the 5 Eligible Receivers.</p><p></p><p>Now that you are weaker in coverage, the counter is simple: Three step drop, quick throw. Even rushing 5, the quarterback is not seriously threatened.</p><p></p><p>Now I know what you're going to say. We'll just get a great lineman like Jenkins and two great cornerbacks like Woodson and Harris. While the solution is simple, it is not easy. You premise might as well begin, "All we need to do is win the Powerball Jackpot, put a golden saddle on our Unicorn, and Fly at twice the speed of light. Why is that so hard?"</p><p></p><p>Also: even when we had Jenkins in 2010, we played more 2-4 Nickel than Base 3-4.</p><p></p><p>Stop. Beating. This. Dead. Horse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 715161, member: 4199"] Well, a 3-4 OLB is a DE sometimes and a OLB sometimes. You're almost right. a 3-4 is a 5-2 [I][B]on running plays.[/B][/I] There is stops. On passing plays, a 3-4 looks just like a 4-3. One 3-4 DE and the NT become a 4-3 NT and 3-technique DT, typically the weak/right 3-4 DE. The DE is the same as the 4-3 left/strong 4-3 DE. The right/weak 3-4 OLB becomes the 4th lineman and rushes the passer. The left/strong 3-4 OLB plays a role similar to the 4-3 strong OLB. Hit the TE (which typically denotes the strength of the offensive formation) and drop into coverage. The nice thing about a 3-4 is that, optimally, any of the 4 linebackers can become the 4th rusher. The easy to see case is motioning the TE across the formation. Strength has changed, roles for the left and right sides of the defense flip accordingly. This of a 3-4 of a "balanced" front. IE, the left OLB is now weakside, he rushes and the right, now-strong-side OLB becomes the cover man. Sure you can. Rushing 5 is risky. The entire league rushses 5 or more about 30% of the time. Depending on the coordinator, that number can be as low as 20%. There is a reason for that. If you rush 5, you have to make a concession in coverage. You have to, due to that pesky 12-men on the field penalty. With only 6 in coverage, you have two options. Single High Safety or Don't Cover One of the 5 Eligible Receivers. Now that you are weaker in coverage, the counter is simple: Three step drop, quick throw. Even rushing 5, the quarterback is not seriously threatened. Now I know what you're going to say. We'll just get a great lineman like Jenkins and two great cornerbacks like Woodson and Harris. While the solution is simple, it is not easy. You premise might as well begin, "All we need to do is win the Powerball Jackpot, put a golden saddle on our Unicorn, and Fly at twice the speed of light. Why is that so hard?" Also: even when we had Jenkins in 2010, we played more 2-4 Nickel than Base 3-4. Stop. Beating. This. Dead. Horse. [/QUOTE]
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