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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 278497" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>I agree with you on both instances. Absolutely. I'm not saying otherwise. Nobody selected on the first round is expected to be just ok. They're supposed to be their franchise players for the next 10 years.</p><p></p><p>And Brown certainly fits the bill.</p><p></p><p>But you understand what I'm saying, right? There's a difference between Jamaal Brown, a guy that is a franchise left tackle for sure, that's a solid core player for sure, and a Jonathan Ogden, a guy that is better than everybody else at the position.</p><p></p><p>People won't select Mays because they think he's just solid, and can be their starter for the next 10 years. They'll select him because they think he can be a trully great player, a difference maker.</p><p></p><p>While I don't see the same thing with Brown.</p><p></p><p>To finalize, it's the last time I'm going to drag this thread, here's the thought process I BELIEVE that teams will have with Mays and Brown, and why Carroll passing on Mays concerns me more than with Brown:</p><p></p><p>I don't believe teams will pass on Mays because they think there're better players on the board (aside from Suh, McCoy, Berry, the really elite guys). I think teams will pass on him because they don't think he'll be a great player, and that he's not worth the risk so early. He'd be the perfect 3rd rounder, because, like Polian said, the 3rd round is when you take a gamble on athletes which aren't players.</p><p></p><p>With Brown, I believe teams will pass on him because, even though they do think he'll be a great player, they believe others will be even better than him.</p><p></p><p>And about scouts, with the LTs, they probably see something I don't. I've already said so, that I don't have the same access to film, report from coaches and teammates, etc, that scouts and GMs do. But even with all that, they still make mistakes. It was almost unanimous that Mandarich was the best prospect in that 89 draft. And nobody thought much of Tom Brady in the 2000 draft. So I don't blindly thrust the evaluations. I try to make up my mind from what I see, putting all the info I got together. </p><p></p><p>But almost every single scout will point out that Mays just can't cover anybody. I believe that if he's selected, it's because a coach thinks too much of his own talent, that HE (or his coaching staff) can turn Mays into an elite player, because of his athletic ability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 278497, member: 1429"] I agree with you on both instances. Absolutely. I'm not saying otherwise. Nobody selected on the first round is expected to be just ok. They're supposed to be their franchise players for the next 10 years. And Brown certainly fits the bill. But you understand what I'm saying, right? There's a difference between Jamaal Brown, a guy that is a franchise left tackle for sure, that's a solid core player for sure, and a Jonathan Ogden, a guy that is better than everybody else at the position. People won't select Mays because they think he's just solid, and can be their starter for the next 10 years. They'll select him because they think he can be a trully great player, a difference maker. While I don't see the same thing with Brown. To finalize, it's the last time I'm going to drag this thread, here's the thought process I BELIEVE that teams will have with Mays and Brown, and why Carroll passing on Mays concerns me more than with Brown: I don't believe teams will pass on Mays because they think there're better players on the board (aside from Suh, McCoy, Berry, the really elite guys). I think teams will pass on him because they don't think he'll be a great player, and that he's not worth the risk so early. He'd be the perfect 3rd rounder, because, like Polian said, the 3rd round is when you take a gamble on athletes which aren't players. With Brown, I believe teams will pass on him because, even though they do think he'll be a great player, they believe others will be even better than him. And about scouts, with the LTs, they probably see something I don't. I've already said so, that I don't have the same access to film, report from coaches and teammates, etc, that scouts and GMs do. But even with all that, they still make mistakes. It was almost unanimous that Mandarich was the best prospect in that 89 draft. And nobody thought much of Tom Brady in the 2000 draft. So I don't blindly thrust the evaluations. I try to make up my mind from what I see, putting all the info I got together. But almost every single scout will point out that Mays just can't cover anybody. I believe that if he's selected, it's because a coach thinks too much of his own talent, that HE (or his coaching staff) can turn Mays into an elite player, because of his athletic ability. [/QUOTE]
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