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Taylor Mays-another Rouse?
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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 278486" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>I don't think I can be more clearer than I was.</p><p></p><p>Mays was considered a top 10 pick, but fell when people put on the tape. Brown, for the things you mentioned, lack of competition and physical atributes, wasn't.</p><p></p><p>You didn't see Brown get beat ridiculously when you put on tape. You see him improve in run blocking, and being an excelent blocker.</p><p></p><p>But you see Mays ridiculously miss angles and whiff when he tries to hit people.</p><p></p><p>You don't see inconsistency with Brown. You do, A LOT, with Mays.</p><p></p><p>On another view. Mays was considered a top 10 pick because of potential. Scouts don't think Brown is as good as the other LTs because they don't see much potential in him. He doesn't fall because he may bust...</p><p>-</p><p>About him being the 2nd best, it's OVERALL, not for the Packers. I don't see anyone with better feet than him. I don't see anyone with better movement, and being more fluid than him. I only see Bulaga with better hands, but that's because he's an Iowa Hawk.</p><p></p><p>The only reason I don't put him as the best OT is because of what you said, but when I see the other players' vids, except for Okung, what I see, when making the adjustement to weight/competition, it's still not enough to be better than Brown.</p><p></p><p>Take a look at the vids in the Draft section and you'll see what I mean.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying I know it, because I don't have acess to game tape, only highlights/lowlights. But what I see, he's better than the others. </p><p></p><p>-</p><p></p><p>About being a probowler or being a bust, that's absolutely not right. To stay with safeties, I don't think than Antoine Bethea is a "pro bowler". He made the probowl, but he's not in the same realm as Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu or even Nick Collins. But I'd absolutely have him, he's far from a bust.</p><p></p><p>Is Nick Barnett a pro bowler? He's made the pro bowl, but he's not a "pro bowler" like Patrick Willis or Ray Lewis. But is he a bust? He was chosen in the late 1st...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not the same thing.</p><p></p><p>What's the deal with Mays? People are worried that he might not be able to cover.</p><p></p><p>But if he is, he's one of the top 10 players in this draft. Last year there was doubt who was better, him or Berry, and Berry is a surefire top 10 pick.</p><p></p><p>Now, if his only coach doesn't pick him, with 2 picks in the top 15, it means that he doesn't think he's able to turn into that great player.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what's so hard to understand. I'm not talking about "one of his guys", I'm talking about a guy that has the potential to be ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE DRAFT, but that has a key issue, and played for him.</p><p></p><p>I compare it with Michael Johnson, from last year. He was wildly considered the most physically gifted pass rusher in the draft, but had lazyness issues.</p><p></p><p>If his own coach passed him up, we'd know there was a serious problem with him.</p><p></p><p>It's the same with Mays, but instead of character issues, it's awareness and ballhawking skills.</p><p></p><p>If Pete Carroll doesn't think Mays can learn how to be a playmaker and not be beat, then there's something wrong.</p><p></p><p>In this same draft, there's a player with similar questions. Jason Pierre-Paul. If his coach at South Florida was coaching the Jaguars, a team that needs a pass rusher, and passed on him for some other player, specially Derrick Morgan or another pass rusher, then you'd know that the coach thinks Pierre-Paul is only a one year wonder, that might not be able to produce in the pros...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 278486, member: 1429"] I don't think I can be more clearer than I was. Mays was considered a top 10 pick, but fell when people put on the tape. Brown, for the things you mentioned, lack of competition and physical atributes, wasn't. You didn't see Brown get beat ridiculously when you put on tape. You see him improve in run blocking, and being an excelent blocker. But you see Mays ridiculously miss angles and whiff when he tries to hit people. You don't see inconsistency with Brown. You do, A LOT, with Mays. On another view. Mays was considered a top 10 pick because of potential. Scouts don't think Brown is as good as the other LTs because they don't see much potential in him. He doesn't fall because he may bust... - About him being the 2nd best, it's OVERALL, not for the Packers. I don't see anyone with better feet than him. I don't see anyone with better movement, and being more fluid than him. I only see Bulaga with better hands, but that's because he's an Iowa Hawk. The only reason I don't put him as the best OT is because of what you said, but when I see the other players' vids, except for Okung, what I see, when making the adjustement to weight/competition, it's still not enough to be better than Brown. Take a look at the vids in the Draft section and you'll see what I mean. I'm not saying I know it, because I don't have acess to game tape, only highlights/lowlights. But what I see, he's better than the others. - About being a probowler or being a bust, that's absolutely not right. To stay with safeties, I don't think than Antoine Bethea is a "pro bowler". He made the probowl, but he's not in the same realm as Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu or even Nick Collins. But I'd absolutely have him, he's far from a bust. Is Nick Barnett a pro bowler? He's made the pro bowl, but he's not a "pro bowler" like Patrick Willis or Ray Lewis. But is he a bust? He was chosen in the late 1st... Not the same thing. What's the deal with Mays? People are worried that he might not be able to cover. But if he is, he's one of the top 10 players in this draft. Last year there was doubt who was better, him or Berry, and Berry is a surefire top 10 pick. Now, if his only coach doesn't pick him, with 2 picks in the top 15, it means that he doesn't think he's able to turn into that great player. I don't know what's so hard to understand. I'm not talking about "one of his guys", I'm talking about a guy that has the potential to be ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE DRAFT, but that has a key issue, and played for him. I compare it with Michael Johnson, from last year. He was wildly considered the most physically gifted pass rusher in the draft, but had lazyness issues. If his own coach passed him up, we'd know there was a serious problem with him. It's the same with Mays, but instead of character issues, it's awareness and ballhawking skills. If Pete Carroll doesn't think Mays can learn how to be a playmaker and not be beat, then there's something wrong. In this same draft, there's a player with similar questions. Jason Pierre-Paul. If his coach at South Florida was coaching the Jaguars, a team that needs a pass rusher, and passed on him for some other player, specially Derrick Morgan or another pass rusher, then you'd know that the coach thinks Pierre-Paul is only a one year wonder, that might not be able to produce in the pros... [/QUOTE]
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