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<blockquote data-quote="Quientus" data-source="post: 259856" data-attributes="member: 1834"><p>Not exactly ... Instead of only bringing up 5 seasons, why don't you show the last 10 instead ? - And despite a statwise slump in the recent latter half of seasons, there has been only one single losing season in so far 18 seasons as a starter for 3 different teams ...</p><p></p><p>Yes, the Vikings have a formidable team this seasons, just as they had last season. The only time Favre has made a deep play off run (not including the 2007 season), was in 1996 and 1997 ... - Looking at Minnesota, I doubt any one could argue that Favre had not had a significant impact on that team as a whole ...</p><p></p><p>How do you explain the 2007 season ? </p><p></p><p>So far alot points to the fact that Favre also makes his team mates play better, despite who was/is the coach, which is something you can't exactly say for Rodgers (yet ?) ...</p><p></p><p>Favre's ability (among others) to unload the ball more quickly and utilize the checkdowns (regardless of which play was called - many times) in 2007 made that offensive line look alot better than they actually were, as history has proven ... - And with changed play calling, all of a sudden this seasons Packers offensive line don't look as anaemic as they did in the first half of this season neither ...</p><p></p><p>Favre is alot like Manning in that regard ... - It doesn't really matter who you put around him ... Some ways or another, both of them, will help immensely on those respective teams in terms of performance, not necessarily meaning great stats from either ... </p><p></p><p>Does either of them have the ability to make deep play off runs regardless of who they are playing with ? - Most likely not (again not counting the 2007 season), because as I've said numerous times, there is a huge difference between regular season games and play off games, however, both of them *will* (most likely) be able to make their respective teams contending for a play off spot up to the very last ...</p><p></p><p>That is why I don't agree when you say the same "excuse" has to apply to Rodgers, because so far that hasn't been the case, because Rodgers hasn't exactly been showing that he has the ability to improvise when the stakes are high ...</p><p></p><p>Last a little postulation; - Do you honestly think the Packers would even have been to the NFC Championship Game in 2007 with Rodgers under center ? Because I just don't see that happening ...</p><p></p><p>But in the end, as this regular season draws to a close, most other posters will probably post the stats of last 4 games, then the last 3 games down to the last 2 games from previous seasons ...</p><p></p><p>Then, once the Vikings are in the Play Offs, alot will use the "Favre will throw multiple picks to lose any play off game all by himself ..." arguement ...</p><p></p><p>Will Minnesota go to the Super Bowl this seasons ? Hard to tell, as anything can happen in the Play Offs, not to mention the Super Bowl, however, right now, there are probably only one team in the NFL who can beat Minnesota (and vice versa) and that is the Saints ... (I'm not talking about the Steelers, since that game has already been played, and most likely the Steelers won't make it far enough to play Minnesota again ...).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quientus, post: 259856, member: 1834"] Not exactly ... Instead of only bringing up 5 seasons, why don't you show the last 10 instead ? - And despite a statwise slump in the recent latter half of seasons, there has been only one single losing season in so far 18 seasons as a starter for 3 different teams ... Yes, the Vikings have a formidable team this seasons, just as they had last season. The only time Favre has made a deep play off run (not including the 2007 season), was in 1996 and 1997 ... - Looking at Minnesota, I doubt any one could argue that Favre had not had a significant impact on that team as a whole ... How do you explain the 2007 season ? So far alot points to the fact that Favre also makes his team mates play better, despite who was/is the coach, which is something you can't exactly say for Rodgers (yet ?) ... Favre's ability (among others) to unload the ball more quickly and utilize the checkdowns (regardless of which play was called - many times) in 2007 made that offensive line look alot better than they actually were, as history has proven ... - And with changed play calling, all of a sudden this seasons Packers offensive line don't look as anaemic as they did in the first half of this season neither ... Favre is alot like Manning in that regard ... - It doesn't really matter who you put around him ... Some ways or another, both of them, will help immensely on those respective teams in terms of performance, not necessarily meaning great stats from either ... Does either of them have the ability to make deep play off runs regardless of who they are playing with ? - Most likely not (again not counting the 2007 season), because as I've said numerous times, there is a huge difference between regular season games and play off games, however, both of them *will* (most likely) be able to make their respective teams contending for a play off spot up to the very last ... That is why I don't agree when you say the same "excuse" has to apply to Rodgers, because so far that hasn't been the case, because Rodgers hasn't exactly been showing that he has the ability to improvise when the stakes are high ... Last a little postulation; - Do you honestly think the Packers would even have been to the NFC Championship Game in 2007 with Rodgers under center ? Because I just don't see that happening ... But in the end, as this regular season draws to a close, most other posters will probably post the stats of last 4 games, then the last 3 games down to the last 2 games from previous seasons ... Then, once the Vikings are in the Play Offs, alot will use the "Favre will throw multiple picks to lose any play off game all by himself ..." arguement ... Will Minnesota go to the Super Bowl this seasons ? Hard to tell, as anything can happen in the Play Offs, not to mention the Super Bowl, however, right now, there are probably only one team in the NFL who can beat Minnesota (and vice versa) and that is the Saints ... (I'm not talking about the Steelers, since that game has already been played, and most likely the Steelers won't make it far enough to play Minnesota again ...). [/QUOTE]
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