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<blockquote data-quote="Thirteen Below" data-source="post: 1070824" data-attributes="member: 18006"><p>And in this context, "big" means <em>truly </em>big. The guy is roughly 260 pounds, which is <em>50-65 pounds</em> bigger than the average NFL defensive back and about even with an LB (and on an individual basis, often 10-15 lbs heavier; which gives you some substantial opportunities in terms of matchups).</p><p></p><p>A lot of DBs are gonna say "ah, <em>****,</em> here he comes" when they see Kraft get past the linebacker.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I honestly don't recall any draft, by any team, any year, that compares to Gute's 2023 draft. 8 solid starters/rotational players - Van Ness, Musgrave, Kraft, Reed, Valentine, Brooks, Wooden, and Wicks. For most teams, they'd be doing somersaults to get that many starters in <em>three </em>drafts, and slappin' one another's ***** to get that many in <em>two</em>. The average percentage of NFL draft picks who become starter or rotational players is roughly 25-30%; Gute's 2023 hit rate is 114.3%.</p><p></p><p>114.3.%.... 8 players in a 7-round draft.</p><p></p><p>But wait - there's more!</p><p></p><p>Also in that third day, Green Bay scooped up Brenton Cox and Malik Heath as free agents, both of whom are playing significant or contributing roles right now wiith this team.</p><p></p><p>Factor that in, and by the end of Day Three, Gutekunst came away with 10 starting or contributing players in a 7-round draft, for a hit rate of 140%!!!</p><p></p><p>And this was just one year after drafting <em>another </em>eight starters (Walker, Wyatt, Watson, Tom, Rhyan, Doubs, Enagbare, and the other Walker), for a hit rate of 114%.</p><p></p><p>This is a master class in how you build a Super Bowl-caliber team in 3 years, when you consider that this was all a year before drafting what may turn out to be as many as 6 or 7 starters/rotational players in 24. This just doesn't <em>happen</em>.</p><p></p><p>But here we are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I remember a couple of plays where I sat up straight and said, "Holy cow, who was that??" Couldn't immediately see the name or number, and then on the replay sat back and said, "whoa, that was Belton? The rookie?" Smooth, reactive, and in control... seemed to know exactly what to do at every stage of his engagement... no confusion, no hesitation, just "ok i'm gonna do this, now I'm gonna do that, and so on... ". Did not immediately look like a guy who was playing NCAA football just a few months ago.</p><p></p><p>I was a little curious about the pick at that time, but I get it now.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Our hit rate at this position group is phenomenal the last several years. It used to be that the rest of the league looked to us as the quarterback factory; now it's more like the O-line pipeline.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am really looking forward to seeing where Morgan is at by December as compared to September, because almost evey series of downs, I am more and more understanding why we took him where we did. Again, Green Bay just hits the jackpot on identifying and developing an offensive lineman. Is there another team in the NFL who does that better?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Until we draft and develop their replacements, and move them along for draft picks when their contracts come up. This top-heavy OL room is an awfully nice problem to have. That's a really, really good position group to be overstocked.</p><p></p><p>Of course, it can change fast with injuries. In a single week. But right now, we're looking very strong at O-line for the immediate future.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've been crazy about Heath from the beginning, had very high hopes, and it's validating to me that you like the guy so much too. He's going to get some snaps in the next couple of weekends, and I'll be watching closely to see what he does with those opportunities. I'm rooting for him; I hope all this hard work the last several years finally comes to fruition. He's earned it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thirteen Below, post: 1070824, member: 18006"] And in this context, "big" means [I]truly [/I]big. The guy is roughly 260 pounds, which is [I]50-65 pounds[/I] bigger than the average NFL defensive back and about even with an LB (and on an individual basis, often 10-15 lbs heavier; which gives you some substantial opportunities in terms of matchups). A lot of DBs are gonna say "ah, [I]****,[/I] here he comes" when they see Kraft get past the linebacker. I honestly don't recall any draft, by any team, any year, that compares to Gute's 2023 draft. 8 solid starters/rotational players - Van Ness, Musgrave, Kraft, Reed, Valentine, Brooks, Wooden, and Wicks. For most teams, they'd be doing somersaults to get that many starters in [I]three [/I]drafts, and slappin' one another's ***** to get that many in [I]two[/I]. The average percentage of NFL draft picks who become starter or rotational players is roughly 25-30%; Gute's 2023 hit rate is 114.3%. 114.3.%.... 8 players in a 7-round draft. But wait - there's more! Also in that third day, Green Bay scooped up Brenton Cox and Malik Heath as free agents, both of whom are playing significant or contributing roles right now wiith this team. Factor that in, and by the end of Day Three, Gutekunst came away with 10 starting or contributing players in a 7-round draft, for a hit rate of 140%!!! And this was just one year after drafting [I]another [/I]eight starters (Walker, Wyatt, Watson, Tom, Rhyan, Doubs, Enagbare, and the other Walker), for a hit rate of 114%. This is a master class in how you build a Super Bowl-caliber team in 3 years, when you consider that this was all a year before drafting what may turn out to be as many as 6 or 7 starters/rotational players in 24. This just doesn't [I]happen[/I]. But here we are. I remember a couple of plays where I sat up straight and said, "Holy cow, who was that??" Couldn't immediately see the name or number, and then on the replay sat back and said, "whoa, that was Belton? The rookie?" Smooth, reactive, and in control... seemed to know exactly what to do at every stage of his engagement... no confusion, no hesitation, just "ok i'm gonna do this, now I'm gonna do that, and so on... ". Did not immediately look like a guy who was playing NCAA football just a few months ago. I was a little curious about the pick at that time, but I get it now. Our hit rate at this position group is phenomenal the last several years. It used to be that the rest of the league looked to us as the quarterback factory; now it's more like the O-line pipeline. I am really looking forward to seeing where Morgan is at by December as compared to September, because almost evey series of downs, I am more and more understanding why we took him where we did. Again, Green Bay just hits the jackpot on identifying and developing an offensive lineman. Is there another team in the NFL who does that better? Until we draft and develop their replacements, and move them along for draft picks when their contracts come up. This top-heavy OL room is an awfully nice problem to have. That's a really, really good position group to be overstocked. Of course, it can change fast with injuries. In a single week. But right now, we're looking very strong at O-line for the immediate future. I've been crazy about Heath from the beginning, had very high hopes, and it's validating to me that you like the guy so much too. He's going to get some snaps in the next couple of weekends, and I'll be watching closely to see what he does with those opportunities. I'm rooting for him; I hope all this hard work the last several years finally comes to fruition. He's earned it. [/QUOTE]
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