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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sanguine camper" data-source="post: 1054239" data-attributes="member: 9744"><p>The Packers under MLF have continued to underperform in the playoffs under MLF. You judge success by the number of championships otherwise Marty Schottenheimer would be regarded as a great coach. Lombardi said you play the game to win championships. I base my judgement about success on Lombardi. That's a high bar but I'm good with it if Lombardi used it. Right now, I see the Packers as a franchise where getting to the playoffs is good enough.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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