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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1054201" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>Um....okay now I'm just annoyed but incase you have reading comprehension issues <span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><em>(edited to add: This comprehension comment was uncalled for - yes you frustrated me in your inability to IMO read my post I shared twice with you, but this type of behavior is just not right. For this I am sorry [USER=12225]@BrokenArrow[/USER])</em></span> . I'll break down the exact quotes from my post and explain:</p><p></p><p>My post in response to trading Love and keeping Willis:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>"In Madden a ton....in real life, this type of move would require Gute be fired and Lambeau be burned down....just not smart move in so many ways."</em></strong></p><p>Okay, so the Madden expression is due to there being TONS of people that their only real understanding of trades, contracts and salary caps comes from Franchise mode of the game - where things are grossly ignorant. The last part expressing not smart for multiple ways would include but not limited to mammoth fiscal reasons (which Madden would ignore) that GB would have a salary cap hit of over $86Million dollars in dead cap come due. ONLY A FOOL would cause such a move for a QB that is easily top half of the league - even to his haters.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>"I LOVE Willis, dude is a HIGH HIGH class character of a man,"</em></strong></p><p>This is an expression which emphasizes someone that appreciates and is a fan of someone, only someone who is being sarcastic would ever do such a gesture and not mean it.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>"but he proved in Tennessee he was NOT ready even in the slightest for the NFL..."</em></strong></p><p>Now if you notice this is a past tense expression with the use of "proved" and "was" - speaking to his multiple years in Tennessee and even 3 starts there. Willis looked overwhelmed more often than not, and Will Levis - whom many (myself included) feel isn't an NFL starter or maybe backup - has even done a better job than Willis did. You're talking about a guy that put up a 42.8 passer rating and a 13.3 QBR, abysmal. In short his couple seasons with the Titans illustrated a guy absolutely NOT ready for the NFL behind center - that's not a NEVER but a not ready now.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>"and no that cannot all be blamed on the team he was one because I can watch Caleb Williams and see the ability and the potential - Willis did not show the same."</em></strong></p><p>Caleb Williams was brought up as the example to refute the assumed comeback many people will say about Willis's time in TN being solely bad because the team was bad...this just isn't the case. Levis could have been used, but Williams is someone Packer fans are far more familiar with so used him - Williams at times has looked special, made numerous NFL level throws and has an 87.4 passer rating with a 45.5 QBR (still not a great QBR, but almost four times better than Willis).</p><p></p><p><strong>"Now this year for GB, and not having the pressure of the team being his, it was almost like Willis could go be naturally what/who he is without pressure and he showed a lot more - but if you watch the games he played in he was not asked a lot to make NFL caliber throws;"</strong></p><p>Willis played the game plan and made the plays called at a VERY high level - but the game structure and plan were vastly different than a typical NFL gameplan and didn't ask Malik to do many NFL caliber throws or even throws in general. You're talking about a guy that only threw 14 pass attempts against Indy, 19 against TEN and then only 5 against the Jags in a shortened stint with Love going down.</p><p></p><p><strong>"yes when asked he hit a LOT of them but there isn't anywhere close to enough actionable information to substantiate a move to him over Love."</strong></p><p>There have absolutely been a few throws (half dozen or so) that Willis has made that just flat out prove his arm talent is 100% capable at the NFL level this year. Most recently the one completion he had in the New Orleans game was just NASTY good and folks don't realize the arm strength and touch it took. However, many of us who reviewed him as a college prospect at Liberty never doubted his touch nor his arm strength, it was all going to come down to processing abilities at the next level was all.</p><p></p><p>Willis, as I stated I think has finally had the game slow down, confidence is back and we are seeing the young man with incredible ability in college come bubbling back up. Does this mean he'll go on to be a success story in the NFL - who knows, he still arguably has more bad film than good film in the league out there. HOWEVER, he is absolutely trending towards the good, and I suspect if he keeps answering the bell of opportunity tolls - he is absolutely going to get another chance at a starting job at some point.</p><p></p><p>Original full quote which I've shared back to you multiple times now:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1054201, member: 6578"] Um....okay now I'm just annoyed but incase you have reading comprehension issues [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][I](edited to add: This comprehension comment was uncalled for - yes you frustrated me in your inability to IMO read my post I shared twice with you, but this type of behavior is just not right. For this I am sorry [USER=12225]@BrokenArrow[/USER])[/I][/COLOR] . I'll break down the exact quotes from my post and explain: My post in response to trading Love and keeping Willis: [B][I]"In Madden a ton....in real life, this type of move would require Gute be fired and Lambeau be burned down....just not smart move in so many ways."[/I][/B] Okay, so the Madden expression is due to there being TONS of people that their only real understanding of trades, contracts and salary caps comes from Franchise mode of the game - where things are grossly ignorant. The last part expressing not smart for multiple ways would include but not limited to mammoth fiscal reasons (which Madden would ignore) that GB would have a salary cap hit of over $86Million dollars in dead cap come due. ONLY A FOOL would cause such a move for a QB that is easily top half of the league - even to his haters. [B][I]"I LOVE Willis, dude is a HIGH HIGH class character of a man,"[/I][/B] This is an expression which emphasizes someone that appreciates and is a fan of someone, only someone who is being sarcastic would ever do such a gesture and not mean it. [B][I]"but he proved in Tennessee he was NOT ready even in the slightest for the NFL..."[/I][/B] Now if you notice this is a past tense expression with the use of "proved" and "was" - speaking to his multiple years in Tennessee and even 3 starts there. Willis looked overwhelmed more often than not, and Will Levis - whom many (myself included) feel isn't an NFL starter or maybe backup - has even done a better job than Willis did. You're talking about a guy that put up a 42.8 passer rating and a 13.3 QBR, abysmal. In short his couple seasons with the Titans illustrated a guy absolutely NOT ready for the NFL behind center - that's not a NEVER but a not ready now. [B][I]"and no that cannot all be blamed on the team he was one because I can watch Caleb Williams and see the ability and the potential - Willis did not show the same."[/I][/B] Caleb Williams was brought up as the example to refute the assumed comeback many people will say about Willis's time in TN being solely bad because the team was bad...this just isn't the case. Levis could have been used, but Williams is someone Packer fans are far more familiar with so used him - Williams at times has looked special, made numerous NFL level throws and has an 87.4 passer rating with a 45.5 QBR (still not a great QBR, but almost four times better than Willis). [B]"Now this year for GB, and not having the pressure of the team being his, it was almost like Willis could go be naturally what/who he is without pressure and he showed a lot more - but if you watch the games he played in he was not asked a lot to make NFL caliber throws;"[/B] Willis played the game plan and made the plays called at a VERY high level - but the game structure and plan were vastly different than a typical NFL gameplan and didn't ask Malik to do many NFL caliber throws or even throws in general. You're talking about a guy that only threw 14 pass attempts against Indy, 19 against TEN and then only 5 against the Jags in a shortened stint with Love going down. [B]"yes when asked he hit a LOT of them but there isn't anywhere close to enough actionable information to substantiate a move to him over Love."[/B] There have absolutely been a few throws (half dozen or so) that Willis has made that just flat out prove his arm talent is 100% capable at the NFL level this year. Most recently the one completion he had in the New Orleans game was just NASTY good and folks don't realize the arm strength and touch it took. However, many of us who reviewed him as a college prospect at Liberty never doubted his touch nor his arm strength, it was all going to come down to processing abilities at the next level was all. Willis, as I stated I think has finally had the game slow down, confidence is back and we are seeing the young man with incredible ability in college come bubbling back up. Does this mean he'll go on to be a success story in the NFL - who knows, he still arguably has more bad film than good film in the league out there. HOWEVER, he is absolutely trending towards the good, and I suspect if he keeps answering the bell of opportunity tolls - he is absolutely going to get another chance at a starting job at some point. Original full quote which I've shared back to you multiple times now: [/QUOTE]
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