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Studs and Duds: Total Beat-down

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Lunchboxer, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. 13 Times Champs

    13 Times Champs Cheesehead

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    Why aren't the Packer fans happy? Is this the sourpuss section?
     
  2. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    1. Thank you. If it was that easy, we'd have done it by now.
    2. I'd probably trust Masthay and the defense more, unless we had to go for it.
    3. He's not exactly wrong in his evaluation of Green. As has been said, beast way to stop a rusher is to run right at him.
    4. Yeah, just because it works doesn't mean it wasn't stupid. Same applies to the fake kick. Then again, it's kind of a requirement for STC to be just crazy enough.
     
  3. HardRightEdge

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    (1) I don't agree, I don't think what's happened is what you described, and nobody said it's "easy".

    (2) & (3) What you said are not counter arguments to my points. Perhaps a closer reading of what I wrote is in order.

    (4) The point is not that the call in the CHI game was a bad call. You said no "Monday Morning QBing". The point is that it was no worse than the Kuhn run call, which I criticized at the time for the same reason the call in the CHI game was a poor one. What's gained is succeeding if of significantly less value than what's lost in failing.
     
  4. HyponGrey

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    Lets use cover 2 man nickel as an example:
    2 DB deep, 3 CB covering 3 of the WR, and a LB covering a TE, and 4 DL rush. That leaves a LB sitting smack dab in the middle of the field watching what the QB will do.
    Have the TE block, That leaves 2 LB sitting in the middle of the field watching the QB.

    Lets use a slant. The LB will double the man over the middle.
    How about a screen? The LB will follow the man being used on the screen, and usually one or more of the DL will sniff the play and follow as well (see below)

    Add in the element that these teams know slants and screens are coming and are watching for these exact plays.
     
  5. Aaron rodgers is god

    Aaron rodgers is god Cheesehead

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    For number 2 and 3 I was telling the reasoning behind the two. Running Alex Green was necessary to be ran 20 times a game despite his lack of success. For number 4 they come up with these calls before the day is even played. They decide to do a play if the special teams sees a certain look. A look of a team overloading one side (Bears 1st game) I love this type of coaching. This should obviously be done at good times. You obviously shouldn't do this at certain times in games (Bears 2nd game). I have no problem with a coach being aggressive and trusting a call. You are probably not a fan of this because you are more of a fan of a standard approach. That's your opinion and i agree with some of it but like I said I don't mind his coaching style and I respect it.
     
  6. HardRightEdge

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    You seem to have us playing with 10 men.
     
  7. HyponGrey

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    He's blocking, or covered by the LB. Still does not beat coverage unless you win the individual matchup, in which case you beat the coverage without the slant and screens.
     

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