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Studs and Duds: Lions game

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by ivo610, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

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    Studs

    Running game

    Cobb

    Tramon Williams

    The field crew (if this would have been in Soldier field it would have been a complete mess)

    Duds

    Pass rush

    Passing game
     
  2. MiamiBeachPacker

    MiamiBeachPacker Cheesehead

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    I think you should've singled out Barclay instead of just including him in the Running game, but otherwise everything else looks about right :tup:
     
  3. 13 Times Champs

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    Secondary, secondary, love those kids. Barclay is a scrapper. Put Lang at guard. EDS suks.
     
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  4. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Entire Def after Lions got 14...They did well..
     
  5. 12theTruth

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    Studs

    Barclay and as a whole the run blocking from the offensive line.
    RB's Green, Grant, and Harris
    Shields
    Tramon
    Burnett

    Duds

    Pass Protection as a whole, especially in the first half
    Play calling from MM
    Pass rush from front 7
    LB play medicore to poor

    Our defense will rebound when the 2 lineman and Woodson, and Matthews return. Our offense, however, worries me in particular the offensive line. The pass protection is very poor in general. Lang has been off all year so even if he returns to LG in place of EDS there is no certain thing that the line will shore up a bit. It is a weakness MM has had to scheme to hide. Against great front 7's like the 49ers and the Giants, the liklihood of masking this weakness as we do against lesser teams is at a low liklihood.
     
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  6. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    12theTruth

    What play calling? Be more specific?
     
  7. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Stud

    Michelle Beisner
     
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  8. 12theTruth

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    Well for starters I don't think MM had the team ready. The Lions stormed out to a 14-0 lead and the Lions were showing more energy, flying to the ball, controlling the line of scrimmage, etc. Getting some fortuitous turnovers helped the Pack get back in the game and after halftime the Pack were a different team. Especially the O-line. They even held their blocks longer on passing plays. I don't remember the specific plays but it was probably only a handful throughout the game where there were a few head scratchers.

    It seems that starting last week with Barclay's insertion the productivity from the running game has took a big jump. We saw a continuation of that trend tonight. So I will give MM credit to keep calling the runs when they were working. I guess overall he had a good showing. Just the big thing is that the team didn't seem that ready out of the gate.
     
  9. 7thFloorRA

    7thFloorRA Cheesehead

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    Studs:
    Tramon Williams....1 on 1 and you got it done...enough said

    Casey and Shields....both made big plays and were in the right spot when it mattered.

    Cobb: got open after the route and produced 1st downs

    Don Barclay: Got it done every play. Offensive line play is not meant to be pretty but in the end he got it done every
    time.

    Running game: Good hard running with 3 different backs.

    Fatties on the D-line: played hard and got enough pressure when it counted at the end and made sure tackles on the backs when they ran it and stopped them for a yard or 2.h

    Crosby: $$$$$ He is back on track. those kicks (even the stupid call long miss) were struck well.

    Duds: 1st half play calling of Capers and MM.

    Thats it... the players battled their asses off tonight and won a great game.
     
  10. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Ok I dont blame coach on having team ready...They are adults, and know what is at stake..If a player needs a coach to fire his *** up then personally think thats crap
     
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  11. Alex

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    Studs:
    Tramon, Shields and Casey on D
    Barclay and the Running backs did very well on O

    Duds:
    No pass rush whatsoever.
    O-line gave Rodgers no time at all
    Penalties on both sides

    I don't think Rodgers did bad considering how well the O-line was protecting him but not stud worthy.
     
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  12. 12theTruth

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    A coach wears many hats and bears great responsibility for all facets of team performance. It is a reflection of him if the team doesn't match the intensity of the opponent. Against a greater opponent a 14-0 deficit may not have been overcome.
     
  13. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    To preface, all of the Studs had dud moments, just like the Duds didn't stink all game long

    Studs
    Bull Rush
    Daniels
    Finley
    Cornerbacks
    Barclay
    Hawk
    Running Backs

    Duds:
    Nickel Defense
    Zebra F*ing
    Brad Jones
    Screen Passes
    The Jennings
    Saturday
    EDS
    Kuhn

    On a side note Hawk struggles on the weak side.
     
  14. BorderRivals.com

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    Studs -

    Young secondary played great. (See the post I created for more)
    Running Game - thought both Green and DuJuan Harris (where the hell did he come from?!?!) looked great. Ran hard and decisive.
    Barclay - wasn't watching closely. But, I also didn't notice him often, which is usually a good sign.
    Crosby - He's got his mojo back. Good for him and MM for sticking with him.
    Cobb - The real deal. Jennings' return will open things back up for Cobb.
    The Moxie of the team - Down 14-0 early, the team fought back and showed championship mettle.

    Duds -
    Front-7 on defense. I know we were short-handed. But, man, they didn't get any pressure. Zero sacks, and the only time Stafford was pressured was when we started blitzing more in the second half.
     
  15. melvin dangerr

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    Studs Running Backs
    special teams another week of no big plays against them
    DB's Tramon 5'11 williams Vs 6'5 Calvin johnson
    Duds Line backers No Sacks...
    Pass rush (zero) playing next to Clay has not rubbed off on these guys
    Dom Capers
    N Suh should change his name to Shupid for his P/fouls he commits..
    I give a 1/2 stud and 1/2 dud to O'line still gave up a sack to get this score
     
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    I forgot...

    Duds: Zombo and whomever is responsible for him being on the field
     
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  17. HyponGrey

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    Troy. He was one of the "10 best small school prospects" last year.
    Actually the pocket got collapsed a few times, and I distinctly remember Daniels just barely missing a TFL WAY behind the LOS because of some great penetration.
     
  18. melvin dangerr

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    The 2 inside lineman can only do so much the outside lineman and linebackers need to get it going NOW!
     
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    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    Brad Jones (an ILB) did next to nothing
     
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  20. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    Brad Jones ALWAYS does next to nothing......the towel boy has more hustle and awareness than he does.

    The secondary played well. Had it not been for the bad weather, I think they would have picked off stafford 4 times, they dropped several INT's.
     
  21. burt packerack

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    Agreed if he couldn't shed Stafford's block then he needs to ride the pine
     
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  22. Vladimirr

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    Stud:

    Mike Daniels, who provided the momentum shift.
     
  23. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    His contract is up next year and he has been injured far too often with far too little field production.
     
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  24. FrankRizzo

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    I would give our overall performance last night about a 'B'.
    We beat them with our 'B' game, which is good.
    Now granted, they were missing their #2, 3, 4 WRs, and their #1 TE went out right away.
    And they were missing Delmas the ACL-hunter.
    But we know how many guys we're missing too.

    The thing is, we will need our 'A' games to beat the playoff teams we will face, especially the Niners and/or Giants.
    But how many 'A' performances does a team have in em?
    The Giants saved all of theirs last year for January & February.
    We used a lot of em up in Sept-November.

    Duds last night were Davon House.
    Stud was Sam I Am Shields who replaced him great.
    Hayward was a stud too.

    And once again, the unheralded Buckeyes AJ Hawk and Ryan Picket were studs.
     
  25. Rocky11

    Rocky11 Superbowl bound Pack

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    Dom Capers for me. Dial up more blitzes, not. We never got close to Stafford. They always say that he has one of the greatest defensive minds in football. I strongly disagree. Detroit had the ball for a full 15 minutes than we did.
     
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