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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Heyjoe4" data-source="post: 939876" data-attributes="member: 13032">That's not an illusion Poker.  Mid-season, the Packers ruled TOP.  That was due to a great offensive game plan, and a D that was very stingy with first downs.  In the last few games it's the opposite.  Look at Cleveland's opening drive of 8 plus minutes.  That wears out the D early and sets the stage for a bad Q4, and that's what we got.These are the same players, for the most part, who have been out there all year.  The D dominated the Rams, so the Ravens and Browns should have been easy.  They weren't.I don't know what it takes.  Maybe a lot of heart-to-heart discussions with coaches and players, and among the players themselves.  They're better than this, and they'll have to be to beat teams like the Cowboys.  So get it together guys, starting with the hated Queens.</blockquote>

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