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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 508107" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p>I agree the first team pass rush hasn’t been anything to write home about but it’s not about scheme IMO. Pass rushing schemes only go so far in the NFL, it boils down to individuals winning their individual battles. Even so, if Capers has anything imaginative up his sleeve, he’s not going to debut it before opening day. It would be great if the Packers find that one compliment to Clay rushing the passer but it would be even better if Perry, Datone, Daniels, Neal, Raji, Hayward, and/or someone else took turns being that compliment. But we haven’t seen that yet, and my point is the disappointment should be more with the players at this point, not the scheme.</p><p></p><p>Jolly looked good and I like the trend, even though it’s just a couple of games. I’m not sure if it was on this site but I remember Packers fans downplaying Jolly’s penchant for knocking down (or up) passes. The comments were something like, ‘he doesn’t rush the passer, just waits to bat at the ball at the LOS’. That’s nonsense of course, I’ll bet on nearly every pass deflected in Jolly’s career he first got a push up the field. And in the end it doesn’t matter, the result is still the same. BTW, I think it was Jolly who beat a double team with the Rams backed up to their goal line and <em>pressured</em> the QB into an incompletion.</p><p></p><p>I agree Wilson is on the bubble – they may want to make room for Boyd who has shown a flash or two, albeit against opponent’s 2nd and 3rd teamers. Francois has impressed so far and for a relatively raw player so has Mulumba. I agree on House too, glad to see the player we remembered from last preseason has returned. The reports that Shields has had a terrific camp have translated onto the field.</p><p></p><p>Hyde has been beaten a couple of times but you have to like what we’re seeing overall. When he was drafted I was hoping they’d put him at safety but see now how he fits covering the slot receiver like Hayward. In the dime he and Hayward will give Capers a lot of flexibility. Unless Jennings or McMillian really emerge, I’d like to see Micah take over at the safety spot opposite Burnett. I think Hyde is miscast on the outside - and the Packers have Williams, Shields, and House to fill those spots anyway. And if Hyde starts at safety he could still fill a different role on the dime.</p><p></p><p>I’d like to see the experiment of Franklin as a returner stop and those chances go to Hyde. McCarthy said this week he’s tempted to use Hyde on offense – well returning is the next best thing. Let’s see Hyde and Ross fight it out.</p><p></p><p>An aside: Of course it’s early, early, early – “they” say you have to wait three years to evaluate a draft . But look at the early returns on the 2013 draft. The reports we read about Jones from his arrival in Green Bay have been extremely positive. I read somewhere this week that if he hadn’t injured his ankle on that play last week, it would have been a highlight-reel play. Obviously he needs to get back on the field but again, early returns are favorable. Lacy looks special. Bakhtiari, other than being in desperate need of a pronounceable nickname, could be the long-term answer at the most important position on the OL; and he was the 109th pick. And then there’s Hyde. What do these four have in common? Of course they’re all physically talented but that’s not uncommon. What is all too often missing is something these kids have: They are football players. They have “it” and it is the knack for the game that can’t be taught. Like I said, the “final” grade won’t be assigned for years and who knows how Tretter, Franklin, Boyd, Palmer, or the speedy WRs will turn out. But so far, so very, very good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 508107, member: 4300"] I agree the first team pass rush hasn’t been anything to write home about but it’s not about scheme IMO. Pass rushing schemes only go so far in the NFL, it boils down to individuals winning their individual battles. Even so, if Capers has anything imaginative up his sleeve, he’s not going to debut it before opening day. It would be great if the Packers find that one compliment to Clay rushing the passer but it would be even better if Perry, Datone, Daniels, Neal, Raji, Hayward, and/or someone else took turns being that compliment. But we haven’t seen that yet, and my point is the disappointment should be more with the players at this point, not the scheme. Jolly looked good and I like the trend, even though it’s just a couple of games. I’m not sure if it was on this site but I remember Packers fans downplaying Jolly’s penchant for knocking down (or up) passes. The comments were something like, ‘he doesn’t rush the passer, just waits to bat at the ball at the LOS’. That’s nonsense of course, I’ll bet on nearly every pass deflected in Jolly’s career he first got a push up the field. And in the end it doesn’t matter, the result is still the same. BTW, I think it was Jolly who beat a double team with the Rams backed up to their goal line and [I]pressured[/I] the QB into an incompletion. I agree Wilson is on the bubble – they may want to make room for Boyd who has shown a flash or two, albeit against opponent’s 2nd and 3rd teamers. Francois has impressed so far and for a relatively raw player so has Mulumba. I agree on House too, glad to see the player we remembered from last preseason has returned. The reports that Shields has had a terrific camp have translated onto the field. Hyde has been beaten a couple of times but you have to like what we’re seeing overall. When he was drafted I was hoping they’d put him at safety but see now how he fits covering the slot receiver like Hayward. In the dime he and Hayward will give Capers a lot of flexibility. Unless Jennings or McMillian really emerge, I’d like to see Micah take over at the safety spot opposite Burnett. I think Hyde is miscast on the outside - and the Packers have Williams, Shields, and House to fill those spots anyway. And if Hyde starts at safety he could still fill a different role on the dime. I’d like to see the experiment of Franklin as a returner stop and those chances go to Hyde. McCarthy said this week he’s tempted to use Hyde on offense – well returning is the next best thing. Let’s see Hyde and Ross fight it out. An aside: Of course it’s early, early, early – “they” say you have to wait three years to evaluate a draft . But look at the early returns on the 2013 draft. The reports we read about Jones from his arrival in Green Bay have been extremely positive. I read somewhere this week that if he hadn’t injured his ankle on that play last week, it would have been a highlight-reel play. Obviously he needs to get back on the field but again, early returns are favorable. Lacy looks special. Bakhtiari, other than being in desperate need of a pronounceable nickname, could be the long-term answer at the most important position on the OL; and he was the 109th pick. And then there’s Hyde. What do these four have in common? Of course they’re all physically talented but that’s not uncommon. What is all too often missing is something these kids have: They are football players. They have “it” and it is the knack for the game that can’t be taught. Like I said, the “final” grade won’t be assigned for years and who knows how Tretter, Franklin, Boyd, Palmer, or the speedy WRs will turn out. But so far, so very, very good. [/QUOTE]
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